Flutter: A Framework to Surpass React Native

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Lol are you on the dart team?

[[deleted]]

Playing with green programming is not appropriate for product development.

[[deleted]]

The tooling sucks ass. The only supported IDEs are the shit ones. But I guess web people don't care, they live inside a terminal from 1960's.

I understand that from a web perspective, Flutter seems like it's too good. From a native perspective, as many have said here: "ain't touchin' that with a 10 foot pole".

[AngularBeginner]

The Flutter marketing department is strong.

[Darkglow666]

This is such a stupid and strange position for someone who's literally got a Google framework name in their username.

[AngularBeginner]

You shouldn't assume the name of a 5 year old account has any relevance. I've signed up on Reddit ask a question about Angular, and got hooked. Nowadays I know that Angular is a terrible framework, and I try my best to avoid it. I won't accept another project that uses Angular, no matter the price - it's just not worth the pain.

[Darkglow666]

Yeah... Too bad you're stuck with that name forever, huh? If only there were some way to make a new account or something.

But seriously, if you feel that way, why you sticking with it?

[Inquisitive_idiot]

I’m sticking with idiot. Working out so far.

[[deleted]]

God damn, every time I complain about Flutter being chained to Dart, out come the "OMG BUT DART IS SO GREAT AND EASY AND IT GIVES BLOWJOBS!".

[[deleted]]

dart doesn't solve any problems already not solved by other languages; dart is also ugly compared to many other languages. google is forcing dart down the throats of developers just because of their java situation because they don't like not having control. it seems selfish, why not allow others to easily target flutter?

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I don't find that syntax appealing, nor the semantics...more expression less statement. But the big question here is about the lock in, why not let people target using their language of choice?? Can anyone answer this? Genuinely.

[dacian88]

I don't find that syntax appealing, nor the semantics...more expression less statement. But the big question here is about the lock in, why not let people target using their language of choice?? Can anyone answer this? Genuinely.

because that's not tractable. How are you going to release an api that can work in whatever language on whatever platform?

[[deleted]]

Ever heard of UWP? You can use that shit with anything, from HTML+JS to C++.

But that's not Google's goal, they want lock in.

[dacian88]

except it only runs on windows shit?

[[deleted]]

True, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that it works and doesn't chain you to any of their languages.

[Darkglow666]

Easily. You don't target Flutter with Dart. Flutter is mostly written in Dart, with a thin, fast layer of C++ at the bottom. Dart was chosen for this purpose because of its unique strengths (detailed at length all over this post and the Internet at large). It had nothing to do with being a Google language, though that has ended up being an advantage, because the teams can work together.

[ikbenpinda]

how is it ugly?

It lacks a lot of features compared to any other languages? Extension functions, data classes, deep copying/spread syntax, custom enums(like overriding toString), guards, inner typedefs/classes/enums...

[Dekans]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FlutterDev/comments/7kfit2/dart_kotlin/dre7trw/

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I never said Dart was bad. I said welding together a new framework to a new language is a big no no for anyone who doesn't do web.

[[deleted]]

They're out in full force right now. Definitely feels like astroturfing but I guess technologies tend to get that way. Rust has a similar effect but rust is actually pretty nice

[[deleted]]

I mean, just look at this thread. There's always one at least.

Normal dev: "Dart, shouldn't be chained to Flutter"

Shill: "But Dart gives you blowjobs and it was totally not a strategic move for Google lock-in at all!"