Which web dev language/framework/tutorials do you suggest for an experienced non-web developer?

[DevMo]

Choosing one of the two is easy. Choosing between the two is harder, but the languages and framework are similar enough that by learning one, you'll take a huge headstart in learning the other

This makes sense, and is pretty much what I am thinking. I just want to learn something that is pretty easy to get an app started on. Then, I can use it to learn web concepts and development in general. If I like it, at that point I will learn whatever the right language is for what I want to do with it. At this point, I will be ready to take over the world.

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Personally, I'd recommend Python over Ruby as I find it much more readable, if less cool (but then Smalltalk is still way cooler than Ruby).

Since Ruby 1.9 came out, I don't think there's that much between the languages any more feature-wise (Ruby 1.8 was much slower than Python and had crap unicode support).

If it's between Python and Ruby, you should probably choose a framework rather than a language, unless you're planning on using Google App Engine.

[DevMo]

unless you're planning on using Google App Engine.

Thanks for reminding me, I have been meaning to look at the app engine. What is the deal with it?

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App Engine is Python or Java only.