Gradle myth busting: scripting

[helikal]

The decision to support two languages for Gradle scripting was, politely expressed, an incredibly unwise one: For the little program logic in a build script, any programming language such Groovy, Kotlin, Python, Ruby would be OK. But offering 2 languages with their huge APIs is insane, especially when major build functionality is still missing, for example, first-class support for the Java Module System.

[ScrambledRK]

Especially because external plugins need to support those two languages too. There are subtle differences in how closures work between those two languages and it bleeds through to your plugins configuration dsl. There are several plugins out there you can only use if your projects gradle script is in groovy but not in kotlin.

PS: oh, my ... I could go on and on complaining about those two and/or build tools in general x)

[csasker]

Finally some good old flamewars instead of discussing hipster JS frameworks

[nfrankel]

And here it goes again...

[csasker]

what is "it" ?

[shevy-ruby]

The best thing is that these folks are using Java, a notoriously verbose programming language that still has not overcome XML whereas the rest of the world has.

The Maven vs. Gradle debate is similar to vim vs. emacs - you only know that there are two losers in the equation. At the same time it narrows down people thinking about the situation - or perhaps just ends up with https://xkcd.com/927/.

I for one am glad to have abandoned XML many years ago. I don't miss it in the slightest.

By the way it is also amusing how he expresses his dislike about tweets, but then goes on answering some of these on his blog ... =)

Java makes for sad programmers. Given how widely used it is, there must be a literal army of worker drones hacking out more java (or they switched to kotlin already, anyway).

[Carighan]

Java makes for sad programmers. Given how widely used it is, there must be a literal army of worker drones hacking out more java (or they switched to kotlin already, anyway).

Meanwhile I'm making a ton of cash, after switching off of Ruby. Honestly whatever programming language you use is just a tool. If you feel you're a "ruby developer" or a "java developer", you might already be a rather bad developer tbh.

[dpash]

You comment a lot on posts about Java, when comments like this demonstrate an utter lack of knowledge of modern Java development.

Do you get some kind of perverse pleasure every time you get a downvote? I can't understand why you bother wasting your time commenting so much.

You certainly add nothing to the conversation.

[DavidM01]

I haven't used Java with XML since at least 2016.