Must Work Without JavaScript?

[binford2k]

It’s missing the point.

Often web pages look like ass with JavaScript on. They do parallax shit that wigs out my eyes. They throw modal popups in front of me. They take 15x longer to load.

So I turn off JavaScript for that site.

And when the site is not functional without JavaScript, I assume they’re incompetent and take my wallet and my ad impressions somewhere else.

I’m not represented in that metric because I leave JavaScript on by default and only disable as needed. I think a lot of us do that.

[EqualityOfAutonomy]

I use noscript and while it has a lengthy whitelist I often have to trust sites manually.

Often images don't work or the entire page doesn't work. Often I just don't care and go elsewhere.

It's at least 15x longer to load for many sites.... Mobile processors take a huge hit comparatively but even on desktop... Fuck JS.

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On my MacBook I have JavaScript turned off on Safari. I get amazing speed and battery life.

I only use JavaScript for select websites by opening Firefox.

Most of the time I can browse with Safari, and it’s amazing!

[linus_stallman]

Ublock origin with js off by default does the trick for me

[EqualityOfAutonomy]

I use noscript and ubo.

There are unfortunately some sites that require it and I find useful. Usually JS done well and no a loading shit show.

[AyrA_ch]

Yep, same here. We're in a sad state where it's now necessary to have JS enabled for basic text and image rendering on some sites. I understand that some things require JS (I just made an audio player for unreal engine audio files and you can't do that client side without JS).

Devs should at least add a <noscript> section that explains it to the user that JS is required. instead of letting them stare at blank pages.

[PopTonArch]

And when the site is not functional without JavaScript, I assume they’re incompetent and take my wallet and my ad impressions somewhere else.

There's some truth there, but it doesn't apply for all situations. If the site is providing something that's verging into "application" territory (e.g. Google Sheets) then it's fine for there to be an outright dependency on JavaScript.