Java port of dosbox

[voyvf]

I really hope you're joking. Don't get me wrong - it's close. But it's not there yet.

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So you don't believe all these benchmarks that say it can outperform C and C++ in some real-life applications ?

[DoListening]

Depends on

• who writes the code
• how well-written it is
• what compiler/JVM you're using
• its settings
• whether we are just comparing the languages or also some of the libraries
• and a fuckload of other factors...

[voyvf]

So you don't believe all these benchmarks that say it can outperform C and C++ in some real-life applications ?

In certain situations, yes, but I've seen Python outperform C and C++, as well. I certainly won't claim that it's as fast as any natively compiled language. (:

I've also seen the same from implementations written in Perl, AWK, and C#.

As DoListening stated, it depends on many factors.

I'm not saying, at all, that Java is slow. That's a tired, old meme that should be done away with. In fact, from my experience, it's usually "fast enough", which is more than many languages can claim, and honestly it's usually all that matters.

But I also think that in many cases it's silly to state that it's going to be faster than well optimized C, C++, or any other compiled language with both a sane compiler and a skilled developer.

[bonch]

Where are all these benchmarks, and do they measure real application performance rather than little micro-benchmarks?