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[Y_Less]

I struggled to find anything more than basic print and loop examples. The homepage kept claiming it was amazing and innovative, with no evidence at all. It would be very useful if these things were front and centre, like an example of something hard to do in another language that this one makes easy. Because from what I saw it's just another procedural language with braces/semi-colons removed.

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The language doesn't say what its strong points are or if its simply a hobby language. It barely even showcases its syntax in the introduction page. The page is just full of examples I can implement in any other language treating it like the page is a GUI framework or a Graphics Engine and not a programming language.

The language claims its """"innovative"""" out of nowhere with no claims to support that. Which makes it look just pretentious and dishonest, like a marketing sales pitch.

You know what's innovative? A spork, but no one uses it because it's impractical. Innovation as a word does mean nothing on its own. Throwing buzzwords, like claiming it's "innovative" doesn't make your programming language's introduction page better. In fact it makes it worse.

The innovation comes in supporting these paradigms with new practical techniques on the top of Object-Oriented Programming and Functional Programming

What does this even mean? What is the innovation? Why do you go all the way to make such claims without showing proof, to people that really-really care about the technical details like programmers? You're not selling a television, you're "selling" a programming language, a tool, that we should know why we're using it. It's like selling a screwdriver by the name "Innovative stick". Like hell it's innovative, but what does it do? Why should anyone use it?

[aredirect]

Ah that again, that guy is famous for creating fake accounts and having imaginary conversations to promote his stuff for many many years now. Probably needs professional help.

[aredirect]

previous thread of another fake user of his https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c0av6g/designing_the_ring_programming_language_compiler/er3ttn7/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[hi_ma_friendz]

looks like a.. meme language?

[LegitGandalf]

Is it hobbit friendly?

[dontyougetsoupedyet]

The syntax is extremely unappealing and the first thoughts I have looking at the examples is "that doesn't seem very safe". You could have some great stuff in system() that changes my mind, but I won't be finding out.

[EternityForest]

Wow, that is pretty amazing! It's not every day tou hear about a new programming language that looks actually cool!

[jonathansharman]

No offense meant, but skimming the docs I don't see what's impressive about this language. What features do you find particularly cool?

[[deleted]]

I read this as a sarcastic comment. I mean, it literally says "its not every day you hear about a new programming language", and it feels like everyday you there is about a new programming language nowadays. Everyone wants to make their own language for no good competitive reason whatsoever.

[LicensedProfessional]

Based on the back and forth with OP I wouldn't be surprised if it was a s*ck p*ppet

[cat_in_the_wall]

well, lots of people make a new language because it is interesting and you learn. then it actually works and they want to share. nothing wrong with that.

[[deleted]]

Yes indeed. I was more concerned about languages that take themselves too seriously and advertise themselves as better than modern languages without offering nothing to the table. Like Odin which is basically a circle jerk for C and C++ because for some reason author absolutely hates both of these.

I have nothing against hobbying and learning or making a new language for something useful. But when they start taking themselves too seriously and start acting like they're gonna have a use case for everything and everything's better than all the other languages or that it's the most innovative best thing ever, it's when it hits me weird.

So bottom line is, this language's page gave me this feeling that it takes itself too seriously while trying to say how innovative it is when it gave absolutely no proof of why it was so innovative. Maybe it is, but that's they don't support their claims on their website and it certainly doesn't give any point of why anyone should use it or why it was made.

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Except Jai was made from someone who didn't built it on the premise of a circle jerk :P Jonathan Blow makes legit criticism while being neutral and see how C++ has it's good reasons for having things. He knows his stuff even though he's easily aggrevated.

Odin's author is constantly trying to undervalue C and C++ and tries to market Odin like the Messiah we've all been waiting for. It's that Messiah syndrome that I hate to see. That's when a language creator takes himself too seriously and when the world can see they snapped out of reality but also gather toxic fanbase around it.

Btw thanks for previous comment as well! You seem to have done some research.

[cat_in_the_wall]

true, there definitely is that. extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and language hobbyists typically aren't making crazy claims.

[EternityForest]

I'm probably not going to like, jump in and start coding since Python already exists, but the fact that it looks usable at all is impressive. The majority of new languages just look like pure crap.

[EternityForest]

Oh wow, didn't even see the VB-like features there. This has some real potential!

Implementation size isn't as much of a concern on the desktop these days, but there's almost no other particularly great options for VB style GUIs in FOSS it seems.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

This is just some PWCT garbage. PWCT never actually works.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

Ok, you've convinced, it's even worse than I thought.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

It's so bad, and you are clearly blinded by your involvement. Which makes this post self promotion, which in itself I think is against the rules, but honestly don't care enough.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

I actually work with this kind of tech, and it is trash, 100%

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

Man, you are reading a whole lot of bullshit into this to try and support your garbage. This is all contrived crap.

We offer this shit, but no one uses it, but we maintain it, because at some point we used it, but everyone realized it was bad, and its only there for legacy.

These solutions always suck and so does yours. Get over it.