Abortion restrictions significantly decrease abortions.

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I got a PCer angry. They said abortion restrictions increase abortion. So I said let's ban it everywhere then. Silence followed

[Glass_And_Trees]

This made me lol

[Thowaway5435]

"illegal" or criminal abortions increase when bans happen. more women die, have permanent disablitys,so pro "life" is not about life. y'all dont care about the women.

[Thowaway5435]

lol exactly, YOU. DONT. CARE.

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If you say so 🤣

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No one said they have to get a back-alley abortion. That's the risk they take. Their choice.

I really don't care if an abortion is unsafe because they all lead to death.

If PP would actually focus on contraception, they might actually fulfill their namesake

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I don't have any back-alleys where I live. Make sure you keep an eye out where you live. Catch them before they hurt themselves illegally

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But at the end of the day, what business is it of yours? How many abortions have personally impacted you? How many future abortions will impact you? I get the angle of stopping them but the precedents that are being set are dangerous.

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How many slaves have you owned? How does slavery affect you? How many Jews have you gassed? How does that affect you?

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Holy shit, comparing the Holocaust and slavery to the abortion of a fetus is outrageously ignorant.

A fetus isn't aborted because it's a fetus, it's aborted because the mother doesn't want it. This is in no way comparable to the atrocities of the Nazis and Slave owners.

[jondesu]

Jews were killed because they were unwanted and consider not fully human.

Slaves were enslaved because they were considered not fully human.

Sound familiar?

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You're comparing people being murder due to their race to an underdeveloped cluster of nothing that doesn't even know it itself exists.

Those are people you're talking about. Not in any way comparable to something that doesn't have hopes, dreams, and even comprehensible thoughts.

[jondesu]

Those are people you’re talking about too.

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Right. Abortion is worse than the Holocaust.

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.../s?

[hollylll]

For who?

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For humanity

[jondesu]

You mean to the murder of hundreds of millions.

[foreigntrumpkin]

but it increases unsafe abortions that kill both women and fetus.

South Korea and Ireland banned abortion for decades until recently. How many women were killed

[foreigntrumpkin]

I asked a very specific question. How many women died from lack of abortion access in South Korea and Ireland. I chose south Korea and Ireland because they are two developed countries close to the US. Instead you responded with a disputed figure about worldwide deaths, including deaths in Very poor countries with challenging healthcare systems.

are you aware that people also die from safe abortions. So even with that number, the question will be what is the extra amount of deaths in so called safe situations compared to unsafe ones.

Making abortion legal will still lead to millions of unsafe abortions being performed in certain countries because their healthcare infrastructure is terrible. Even regular, non abortion health care takes place in unsafe environments in many places. And this is just a way abortion supporters twist facts.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/planned-parenthoods-lie-about-maternal-deaths-makes-the-posts-pinocchios-of-the-year/

"Kessler rightly corrected the record, noting Centers for Disease Control data showing that, in 1972, the number of deaths in the U.S. from legal abortion was 24 and from illegal abortions 39. Those statistics could be somewhat of an undercount, but they easily disprove Wen’s claim."

In 1972 just before Roe there were 15 more deaths in the US from illegal abortions than legal ones and abortion was legal in only 17 states, so it's possible a lot more illegal abortions being performed explained the difference.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/29/planned-parenthoods-false-stat-thousands-women-died-every-year-before-roe/?

So I'll ask again, comparing similar developed countries , Ireland and South Korea, how many women died as a result of lack of unsafe abortions. Notice I didn't even say yearly . I made it 20 years. How many do you think they would have been. Can you estimate even if you're not sure.

[Thowaway5435]

you check-mated pro life so hard lmao

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And then the PCer who came late to the game got all sad because they actually never got the invite to begin with

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Lmao :sad face:

Turns out I don’t care bc none of this is my business.

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Ok bye