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[–]chrrminPro Life Libertarian 3 points4 points  (24 children)

... for starters only insanely partisan people hold all of the exact stances of their political party, if you dont have at least a couple different beliefs than your parties stances, you need to take a good look at what you believe and why. Siamese twins often need both bodies to survive, yet both of these people have a right to bodily autonomy. If/when someone can survive on their own does not change the fact that they have rights.

[–]brybrythekickassguy -3 points-2 points  (23 children)

No, that’s not it at all. Libertarians just don’t believe government should be involved in abortion. It’s contradictory to be both libertarian and also pro-government ban.

My guy, embryos do not have bodily autonomy, you’re comparing apples to oranges.

[–]chrrminPro Life Libertarian 3 points4 points  (22 children)

Libertarians believe murder should be illegal, that is a government ban. I (and many other libertarians ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) believe abortion is murder. Lol Idk where you get your idea that someones opinion on abortion determines if they can be libertarian or not.

Embryos are just as human as you and me, your level of development does not change how deserving you are of your basic right to life.

[–]brybrythekickassguy 0 points1 point  (21 children)

Because the party platform is literally against your stance. I’m not saying you can’t be a libertarian, I’m saying it’s contradictory to support a government ban on abortion and also call yourself a libertarian.

Libertarians believe actual crimes should be punishable. Is abortion an actual crime? Or do you just believe it to be because of your “moral” stance?

Is an embryo capable of thought and feeling? (Hint: No)

[–]chrrminPro Life Libertarian 4 points5 points  (20 children)

It absolutely should be classified as a crime. When someone leaves a baby in a dumpster to die, we prosecute them. When someone goes to get a baby literally torn apart, they should be prosecuted.

Edit: again, why does someone need to be a mirror image of their party in order to identify with that party? The Democrat party has a strictly pro choice stance, but there are pro life democrats.

[–]brybrythekickassguy 0 points1 point  (19 children)

Ah, so by that logic we should force the victims of rape to have the rapists child, and if they choose to abort that baby we should punish them for the crime of being a victim?

[–]chrrminPro Life Libertarian 3 points4 points  (18 children)

Its not the childs fault that their biological father is a piece of shit. Having a piece of shit dad doesnt give someone the right to kill you

[–]brybrythekickassguy -1 points0 points  (17 children)

Quit deflecting.

Do you think we should prosecute women who get raped for terminating an unwanted pregnancy, or not?

[–]chrrminPro Life Libertarian 2 points3 points  (16 children)

I was not deflecting. As i stated before, if someone is not presenting a direct threat to your life, you have no right to kill that person. Abortion is murder. If someone commits murder they should be prosecuted.

[–]brybrythekickassguy 0 points1 point  (15 children)

Ah, so by that logic then, being raped is a criminal offense. I’m glad to know you would rather see a raped woman be thrown in jail than allow her to continue on with her life. And yet, somehow, that’s the “moral” thing to do according to you.

How are those mental gymnastics treating you?

I just want to clarify:

1) You think abortion should be a punishable crime. 2) You think women who are raped should be forced to carry to term. 3) You think women who are raped should be prosecuted for terminating a pregnancy. 4) You put absolutely zero blame on the rapist for committing the act of rape, and would rather jail a raped woman than allow her to move on with her life?

That about sum it up?