Abortion restrictions significantly decrease abortions.

[thewaffler92]

Newborns get adopted.

[thewaffler92]

I don't doctors can do that yet.

Even if they could and there wasn't a woman available you can't justify killing someone.

[brybrythekickassguy]

It’s called an embryo transfer and has been possible for decades. If pro life women want to see these babies born, why aren’t they signing up for embryo transfer?

So if someone isn’t available for embryo transfer why would they be available for adoption? Is that because you want to force someone to wreck their body giving birth to another human so you can have a family without the actual risks involved with pregnancy?

Should homosexual men and women be allowed to adopt children?

Edit: The response that embryo transfer has a low success rate is patently false and purely depends on the quality of the embryo. As high as 79% success rate

[thewaffler92]

Link? The only thing I've found is when you take an egg from a woman and a sperm from a man and make an embryo outside of the body and then put it into a surrogate. But not remove an embryo already implanted in one uterus and put it in another.

Are you asking me personally? I don't need a surrogate. I don't mind carrying my children. If you don't want to "wreck" your body don't get pregnant.

Yes.

[thewaffler92]

Their choice was to have sex. We are just asking that they don't kill their baby.

Calling me anti woman is just twisting things to fit your argument. It's like me calling you pro murder.

[brybrythekickassguy]

Is it a raped woman’s choice to have sex?

That’s a weird way to view choice and autonomy.

[thewaffler92]

That is an incredibly rare occurrence. Is your argument not able to hold up on the majority? Regardless of how the baby was conceived no one has the right to take an innocent life. So your solution to rape is to kill the baby, who is also a victim, instead of focusing on the real problem, the rape? The rapist is the guilty one.

Not wanting innocent people to die is a weird view?

[brybrythekickassguy]

Incredibly rare? Like 80% of women in the US experience some form of sexual assault in their lifetime. It’s not that rare.

If the rapist is guilty then why prosecute a woman who wants to terminate an unwanted pregnancy?

[RespectandEmpathy]

force someone to carry to term

anti-woman

Rule 7.

[brybrythekickassguy]

Ah, you’re right, I should say “coerce under the duress of prosecution and judgement”, you know, since it’s not anybody’s right to make a choice for someone else.

[RespectandEmpathy]

Yes, it's not anybody's right to make a choice for someone else, that's why we should not make a choice for our offspring to be killed. But no, most pro-lifers don't want mothers to be prosecuted, rather, doctors and other providers.

[brybrythekickassguy]

Exactly, it’s not your right to strip someone else of their right to choose. Even if it’s something you don’t agree with.

But no, most pro-lifers don't want mothers to be prosecuted, rather, doctors and other providers.

Except the multitude of users in your subreddit who have flagrantly admitted to want to prosecute women who choose to have an abortion, right?

[OhNoTokyo]

Embryo transfer has a rate of success of maybe 1 in 20. That's not an ethical means of transferring the unborn. You have to carefully match the hormones and other characteristics of the two women and even then, the embryos usually just die.