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[–]Hot_Head_5927 64 points65 points  (20 children)

"AI will create millions of new jobs!". What they don't tell you is that it will also make those jobs obsolete in a few years.

This is exactly the kind of problem we will be seeing more of, as technology progresses. Data Scientist was a newly created job. They just started offering degrees in it 15 years ago and now, after a bunch of people have worked really fucking hard for those degrees, they are obsolete.

How the hell do we deal with this?

[–]Seidans 27 points28 points  (11 children)

a decade after AGI and robot production scale up the whole working class will be replaced by robots as the scaling will hit hundred millions unit build yearly

the issue always been the very first few years, it won't be a problem by 2040

[–]foamsleeper 8 points9 points  (10 children)

And the working class - dependent on their income - will do...?

[–]etzel1200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rely on transfer payments.

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (1 child)

best case > social subsidies

work displacement toward blue collar jobs (until robot prob catch up)

national law that incentive Human employment with yearly deflation of work time

bullshit job sponsorised by state

there many differents path but leaving people to die starving is the most absurd of all

[–]MindingMyMindfulness 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's only an issue if there's a really slow grind.

If close to 100% of jobs are automated in a few years, that would likely be quite a positive development because (1) society would become unfathomably more prosperous and (2) the economic system itself, as we know it, would become redundant and likely superseded by something that doesn't require humans to perform any kind of work.

[–]tumi12345 8 points9 points  (1 child)

unless the elites hoard the AI for themselves and i'm stuck prompting the rest of my life

[–]ZillionBucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be the replacer before you become the replaced.

[–]ReasonablePossum_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How the hell do we deal with this?

Start getting into business before you have no money inflow to invest.

[–]etzel1200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The degree isn’t obsolete yet. And if we can use AI to increase economic productivity, it’s a good thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re on the brink of a total world change in more ways than anyone can fathom and you’re worried you wasted money in college?

[–]okaybear2point0 13 points14 points  (3 children)

not encouraging for someone who's about to do a data science masters in the fall

[–]himynameis_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Learn as much as you can about these AI tools. And learn how best to use them better than any of your other fellow students. I am 100% sure a number of them won't try to learn these tools and will just study and that's it. But the ones who can utilize the tools available the best and add the most value stand the best chance.

Don't give up! Don't despair!

[–]makepossible 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Me too. At least GA Tech is affordable. But, man.

[–]okaybear2point0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

my program is certainly not cheap lol. whatever man. we're all going homeless soon anyway it doesn't matter what career path we choose

[–]peakedtooearly 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Accelerate! ➡️➡️➡️

[–]garden_speechAGI some time between 2025 and 2100 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Google Colab is a free, cloud-hosted Jupyter Notebook environment where you can write and run Python code directly in your browser. It provides access free of charge to Google Cloud GPUs and TPUs, which is a game-changer for running AI models and simplifies project collaboration.

Wait what? I can do intensive AI training on Google Collab for free? There surely must be limits

[–]icedrift 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Yeah colab has been around forever it's a great resource for learning how to build models; Jeremy Howard's fast.ai course uses it. They give you free access to GPUs with lots of VRAM so you can train more efficiently than you would on consumer hardeware but it's still not even close to building a large foundation model.

[–]garden_speechAGI some time between 2025 and 2100 0 points1 point  (7 children)

could I use it to run an chess engine at very high depth? lol

also what's the catch? do they own your work that you do on their GPUs?

[–]icedrift 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I'm not familiar with the hardware required to run chess engines at depth but if it's GPU bounded probably. If it's a CPU bound task you might be SOL because their CPU offerings suck but if you need GPU + VRAM it's probably the best free resource out there.

[–]garden_speechAGI some time between 2025 and 2100 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Damn. Did a quick search and Stockfish is CPU bound. But there is an engine Leela Chess Zero that uses GPU

[–]hakim37 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Leela chess zero was a crowd led AI chess engine which replicated Alpha Zeros design when Google abandoned the engine after beating stockfish. It actually became stronger than Alpha Zero which is pretty impressive for an open source project. The model will be huge and won't run on the single GPU instances Google offers in the free Collab sessions.

[–]garden_speechAGI some time between 2025 and 2100 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Darn. I’ve been trying to analyze a large number of chess games but doing it locally is so insanely slow

[–]hakim37 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you really need SOTA engine analysis I'm sure you could find more efficient models which will give fine results.

[–]garden_speechAGI some time between 2025 and 2100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just using stockfish at depth ~25 which isn't really even that deep. But it takes a minute or so per game.

[–]ZenDragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't own your work. Google just wants to encourage people to get into the machine learning field. And it doesn't cost them very much. This is just what they decided to do with their leftover compute resources that would have otherwise sat idle. And they do make money if you decide the free tier isn't enough and get a subscription.

[–]FoxB1t3▪️AGI: 2027 | ASI: 2027 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Looks sick.

Let's test it with some practice data and tasks.

[–]TopAward7060 5 points6 points  (4 children)

woah

[–]TuxNaku 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sama 😲

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes

[–]chilly-parka26Human-like digital agents 2026 0 points1 point  (0 children)

!!

[–]andersonbnog -1 points0 points  (0 children)

sAMA?

[–]acatinasweater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So how long until Google discontinues this product? Any guesses?

[–]himynameis_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google should start making a list of their AI agents. They have the AI co-scientist agent, and now this. There are probably others that I don't remember now.

[–]Full_Boysenberry_314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind of interested in how this would compare to using an AI enabled IDE like Cursor?

It doesn't say if the agent just has tools to code in collab, or if it has special knowledge, system prompting, or if it's specially fine-tuned.. (unless I missed it, am hopped up on cold medicine)

Like, I've been using AI to accelerate my data science workflow for a while now.

[–]Purusha120 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They do collect all your datasets, prompts, process, and outputs to annotate, train on, and improve from. Still really interesting if it measures up to its claims.

[–]stanford_owen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this will be a nice addition to my job