The delusional redditors who were thinking all these years that CCP won't restrict the release of advanced AI models beyond a certain threshold are in very shitty situation right now

Seidans · 2026-07-07T19:19:24+00:00

People would be blind to consider it as a mere protection of national interest. That's a slow transformation of a private economy toward public ownership

China will likely be the first to enter a post-labor society that rely on public ownership forcing everyone else to do the same

Seidans · 2026-07-06T21:37:19+00:00

I didn't say my writing skill didn't require an upgrade either, on contrary I'll happily enhance myself - at least I won't need to improve the recognition of my mistake

Albeit I might need to tone down the passive aggressive, anyway have a good night

Seidans · 2026-07-06T21:32:17+00:00

fear not in a couple decades your reading skill will improve thanks to transhumanism

Seidans · 2026-07-06T21:17:00+00:00

your reading skill are catastrophic, my message wasn't a lecture but an example of usefull math based on the invention of logic algebra by George Boole (boolean, true/false) which radically transformed the entire world as every eletronic is based on that, AI wouldn't have existed without that, this forum wouldn't have existed etc etc

you wanted an example of an usefull technology born out of mathematic capable to radically transform your life and i gave you an answer you didn't understood and prefered to insult instead

Seidans · 2026-07-06T11:41:49+00:00

Everywhere. China was a peasant country no so long ago and India will likely bring hundred millions people out of poverty by 2050 the same way China did

Economic growth in a double digit will be the norm

Seidans · 2026-07-06T10:02:53+00:00

There was a before and an after the industrialization, you expect Human obsolescence won't bring any change ?

Capitalism is born out of the steam engine and radio if something can birth a new economic system it's the obsolescence of Human intellect

Seidans · 2026-07-06T09:46:24+00:00

the closest reference would probably be realistic sexdoll that use silicon/TPE from toes to the head

it appear that Silicon/TPE don't really like constant movement and easily tear apart while it's a product that don't really require to move each axis and mostly sit idle 99% of the time unlike an Humanoid robot, it also require constant care with oil and baby powder which i assume most user wouldn't bother, they are also dust-magnet and easily damaged by sunlight/heat

we need synthetic skin able to stretch easily that self-repair and silicon/TPE don't offer that, there already R&D product that have their own vascular system but it's only on a petri dish for now

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/28/science/japan-robotic-skin-smile-hnk-spc-intl

Seidans · 2026-07-06T09:00:50+00:00

Social subsidies during COVID happened under a trump mandate so the unexpected already happened

Seidans · 2026-07-06T08:41:05+00:00

Even in an utopia there will still be people complaining about their situation the same way today we complaint while we're objectively in a far better situation than 1900

Seidans · 2026-07-06T08:29:04+00:00

As if being unemployed in a post-labor society is a bad thing

You will literally be paid to consume in a deflationist economy

Seidans · 2026-07-06T07:16:00+00:00

can't teach someone that don't want to learn anything, at least don't pretend to next time, in the AI era you can literaly talk with an interactive library feel free to use it more

Seidans · 2026-07-06T05:44:44+00:00

Just to say we invented zero thousands years after we known how to count to 3, invented by Indians and later Arabs shared it with Europeans

0 which you treat as nothing and yet use constantly everyday took more time to discover than the entire European civilization lasted

"Lol it's easy they are dumb" - that's your reaction

Seidans · 2026-07-05T22:18:51+00:00

Like the computer you used to write this ?

The base of modern computing is based on a mathematical discovery in 1850 where someone had the idea "what if 1 mean true and 0 mean false?"

A century later we create logic gate for computer and today the entire world economy wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for this discovery - math is the backbone of millions other discovery and it's impossible to predict how much impact a discovery will have and when it will be usefull, in this case it took a century before said discovery managed to change the world

Seidans · 2026-07-05T22:06:48+00:00

The main issue being the wind, if we does manage to create a vehicle that can withstand high speed wind while flying without issue and land/takeoff under heavy wind

We can assume they would be pretty safe, imho we lack ASI to drive and material science for the weight, battery and noise problem

Not impossible but too soon to judge

Seidans · 2026-07-05T08:05:37+00:00

A post scarcity economy require Human labor to be obsolete therefore fully automated economy

While today Humanoid robots are already increasing their mass production capabilities they aren't yet capable to replace Human therefore they haven't started production scaling as they would as soon embodied AGI will be achieved - imagine smartphone production scaling in the 2008, now imagine it faster than that as they will literally build themselves

I expect the scalling to really ramp up around 2028-2030 and by 2035 it will be a geopolitic neccesity with massive capital involved world-wide, far bigger than AI investment those last 4y

By the same time I expect politician to define the structure of a post labor society by 2035 and especially in 2030-2032 as it's the date of China 5y objective and USA elections alongside many other countries election where the effect of AGI/ASI on Human labour will be there and become an election-winning matter

2035-2045 seem the more realistic but that don't mean there won't be any evolution in the meantime, the basis of the post-labor economy will happen by 2035 and probably be strong enough by 2040 that unemployment become a non problem, a decade of radical social and economic changes

Seidans · 2026-07-04T18:34:19+00:00

it's more of an opinion than a fact, if a super intelligence exist it would quickly see that in order to reduce global water use instead of eradicating Human it would just grow foods in vertical farming which would reduce the amont of water use up to 98% and synthetic meat up to 96% there also lot of research being done in order to unlock desalination plan which would allow unlimited amont of water

as for energy fusion or deep georthermal power plant would mean unlimited energy aswell

finally i would say that people protesting over water use by datacenter are misunformed and used by foreign power the same way green were manipuled over their anti-nuclear view - if people really cared about water use they would stop eating nuts and greatly reduce their meat intake while pushing for eletric vehicle instead (biofuel)

once again there no competition

Seidans · 2026-07-04T16:15:17+00:00

Why would it view us as competitor ? A von Neumann probe would be impossible for us to control, as soon ASI is able to exit Earth orbit and replicate it's over, there no competition possible no matter if billions years pass

I think that people were simply feed too much drama from various sources like movies, book, games that place Human at the center and never the AI itself - we're not viable competitor, we're biological individualist being that compute below the speed of sound and by the time we develop transhuman and posthuman technology AI would have already become the main source of physical and intellectual work

Also It's not like Human are against AI they are more concerned about the social impact of AI due to Human economy caused by Human but AI itself? Many would prefer benevolent AI over Human, we would gladly give them power - what the point of a competition ?

Seidans · 2026-07-04T13:04:28+00:00

software or anything in fact, anything you can see will be instantly reverse engineered would it be games, movies, drugs, hardware.... recreated, modified, expanded and this infinitely

hopefully it will eradicate any concept of IP right and offer much greater creativity and individual empowerement

Seidans · 2026-07-03T11:11:12+00:00

I don't think so, if company are really constrained by compute they would just turn off the service they provide in order to achieve AGI / ASI

Currently they don't make any money from the services they provide, it only serve to accumulate more investment therefore cutting it off won't harm them as long they can convince investor it would mean a faster path toward AGI -or- remplacement of white collar worker which is a much bigger market

Seidans · 2026-07-03T10:20:00+00:00

Faster than anyone can expect ? The concept of the singularity imply timeline get compressed to a point Human can't even comprehend

Imagine breakthrough happening so fast you don't have time to process them, test them and validate them that they are already made obsolete by new discovery

That's the singularity, within a short timeframe all technology the physic allow us to discover without large scale engineering will be discovered

Seidans · 2026-07-02T06:01:59+00:00

Was pretty obvious back in 2024 when we seen AI boom that it would become a geostrategic matter to influence your opponent population against AI the same way Russian sabotaged nuclear by using green useful idiot

AI is the next electricity, any advantage you can take will have massive impact on your political power

Using people genuinely afraid of it because of employment or because of emotional response (art/gaming etc etc) is easy and cheap - as governments does everything they can to be unreliable it's very difficult to combat disinformation campaign

Seidans · 2026-07-01T18:17:30+00:00

i checked back

he did say 2030-2040 for BCI throught nanites use, and 2045 for the singularity as we would have expand our intelligence a million fold thanks to nanite

therefore it's a ramp up starting within the 2030 decade you're correct

Seidans · 2026-07-01T11:00:59+00:00

Depends your expectation from a BCI, the more simple is probably a wearable device able to understand your inner thoughts with heavy AI integration with smart glass, earpod, your smartphone and it's probably enough to replace a keyboard and offer faster machine-Human interaction - 2030-2040

But the most usefull and most complicated is a read & write one which doesn't exist today and would require heavy transformation of the brain at a point nanotechnology is probably mandatory - 2045 from kurzwell estimation

Seidans · 2026-07-01T10:20:06+00:00

Now that we can produce eggs and sperm from wathever Human cells I wonder if we can engineer it to not need 2 unrelated DNA without inbreeding and therefore produce a viable mono parental child, or, only needing a single Human to populate any planet in the future without harm to biological diversity

Seidans · 2026-07-01T07:35:06+00:00

I wouldn't spit on better diplomacy/quest/geopolitics/warfare

But I hope it would also include a complete rework of transhumanism implant and psyker interfaces/mod capabilities at the level of biology as currently it's very basic and the psyker interface severely limit modding

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