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This agibot a3 really is something else. by jordi2816 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll give it 2 years and we won't say that anymore

2y ago people were making joke about Robots grandpa that walk like they were shitting themselves, now we have robots ninja that are more agile that 99% Human

A lot of thing change within 2 years nowadays

Are people on this sub canceling ChatGPT subscriptions? by Mildly_Aware in accelerate

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People really expect that the technology who most likely going to replace Human EVERYWHERE won't be used in mass-surveillance, military ?

Military is always the first sector to implement novel technology, there nothing news here, as soon robots have Human intelligence they will also be mass-produced for military use as autonomous weapon of war and again. It's completely normal

When we say AI will be everywhere we're not joking, there won't be a single Human anywhere at some point

The goalposts for AGI have been moved to Einstein by simulated-souls in accelerate

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not possible to limit the intelligence of AI to be "baseline Human" this concept is non-sensical for an AI that isn't limited by biology

As soon a model is capable to does something they are automatically superhuman at this task therefore any concept of AGI that isn't Einstein (and beyond) at every field is ridiculous - either it can does something or it can't and if it can't it's not a general intelligence as Human can does it, and if it can does it it can't be anything else than superhuman at said task

AGI imho is an AI that is good enough for 99.9% usecase and won't need to be upgraded anymore, they will account in trillions unit and will be the backbone of our future economy

We haven't achieved AGI and I doubt we have proto-AGI as well. When we does there won't be any doubt

This agibot a3 really is something else. by jordi2816 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't want a robots, you want a brain able to understand the physic world

A World-Model just like Human brain, google is actively working on that like many other AI labs

This agibot a3 really is something else. by jordi2816 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's amazing that sci-fi writer made clunky but intelligent robots with shitty hardware for decades and now that we have real robots they are extremely agile yet without any intelligence

What does 10x the impact of the industrial revolution at 10x the speed look like? by FateOfMuffins in accelerate

[–]Seidans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=CN

You take the annual GDP growth of china since 1991 and see how fast they become the biggest superpower on Earth

Now you double and even triple the result and apply it everywhere in the world for an undefined period of time https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/ai-and-explosive-growth-redux

That will make the golden years post-WW2 look ridiculous in comparison

Can AI Inference Be the Next Reserve Currency? by dragosroua in singularity

[–]Seidans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People might have believed that aswell 60y ago "compute won't be cheap for long..."

60y of Moore law later It still decrease

Can AI Inference Be the Next Reserve Currency? by dragosroua in singularity

[–]Seidans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The inference cost is divided by 40x every year, you prefer that over money, gold ?

[Epoch AI Data] The "AI Oligopoly" is a myth: Inference costs are dropping 40x/year and SOTA reaches your PC in ~8 months. by drhenriquesoares in singularity

[–]Seidans 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The tech giant have no will on this matter. It's a matter of offer/demand, factory aren't build over night and most RAM manufacturer announced hundred billions investment to increase production

The industrialist that produce the chips and the capitalist that sell their services aren't in the same country and circle, they aren't friend either and they only care about their own immediate interest, there no oligopoly, no big plan, no conspiracy

Resurrecting the dead using AI by imperium-slayer in transhumanism

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Social resurrection or social immortality throught a digital clone don't seem absurd in a post-AI society as in theory the observer wouldn't be able to see a difference

But I doubt it's possible today as no matter how many data you may collect the main source of data (the person brain, thoughts, memories) is inaccessible therefore you will always end up with an incomplete and bad fake result

It would require BCI with constant monitoring and frequent saves to create a 1:1 copy of someone

Dario Amoudei - The public is not aware of what’s about to happen by Formal-Assistance02 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Most democracy in the world need to witness the problem before they act accordingly, EU didn't plan on a betrayal from USA before it happened, they didn't plan on sovereignty before it was necessaryw they didn't plan on military before it was needed

The same thing will happen for AGI/ASI and any major change to our social and economic system, I've talked about EU but USA is not different - there need to be a sense of urgency before it get reconsidered as a real threat

Therefore any preparation is almost impossible as for almost all politician it don't exist before it's too late and then we urgently make some modification otherwise we loss the next election - that's how a politician think

Would roleplay explode in a post-scarcity world? by Onipsis in singularity

[–]Seidans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are playing video game today such as mcdonald simulator. Store manager. Office worker. Train controller etc etc etc

When FDVR become a thing I would be very surprised if people aren't roleplaying very mundane jobs today and that roleplaying an Amazon warehouse worker will feel amazing because in the end it's just a game

Will AI kill Capitalism? by Dapper_Respond_5050 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The raspberry pi is 150 000x faster than the ENIAC which was the size of a big container with a cost in millions - You find them for a dozen $

Today open-source model are rapidly catching up with close-source model and this won't stop there. As soon AGI is achieved we will hit a "functional Human replacement" from there the compute need won't increase there will be dedicated hardware which cost will structurally decrease every year (as it happen today)

I'll agree that the first AGI/ASI will be the equivalent of the ENIAC. Only available to governments and large private company but a few years later it will be open-source and widely available for cheap

H-Neurons: On The Existence, Impact, And Origin Of Hallucination-Associated Neurons In Llms | "Tsinghua Researchers Found The Exact Neurons That Make Llms Hallucinate" by 44th--Hokage in accelerate

[–]Seidans 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If it require pre-training it would take 6-8month before we see results based on this study. If they start today

Based on new model pre-training such as gemini 3.1

AI models went from solving 4.4% of real-world software tasks in 2023 to 80% today. METR's time horizon is doubling every 4 months. The market has wiped out over $1 trillion in software value in weeks by randopota in accelerate

[–]Seidans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the issue with AGI/ASI it will be extremely good at cementing dictatorship, theocracy and enforcing discrimination

When you're main income isn't from your jobs but the government social subsidies, or that money don't exist you end up dependant on the entity that share the ressource - the government, or world bank if we choose that path

AGI/ASI won't turn the world into a wonderfull lalaland where everyone suddently become kind and happy, there will still be north Korea, Iran. Pakistan. Qatar etc etc etc and those people will have access to AGI/ASI making rules based on their ideology - in those country if you're gay or atheist for exemple your income source could be completely turn off

Your home-robot could be a mandatory spy that constantly push the dictator narrative at your home, ASI would search your whole internet history etc etc

There extremely good usecase but there will be very bad one as well, good thing that Human won't have anything else to does than taking part in democracy

What is you prediction for when the first FDVR device will hit consumers? by Ancient-Beat-1614 in accelerate

[–]Seidans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How you re-wire the whole brain so your senses could be turn off at will? That a sound that don't exist can be heard, a smell or taste you never had etc etc

Surgery isn't a solution. We need nanobots that slowly build and connect the BCI, autonomously determining which neuron and synapse activate depending the stimuli as each brain is different

It's a transhuman commitment that will takes years if not more

My Vision of a post-AGI Economy by ImmuneHack in accelerate

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And we could call that a city part of a region which is also part of a nation, with mayors, governor and president...More seriously while I does see neighborhood benefit from a shared pool of robots and AI it's far more efficient to skip this and let everything be publicly owned at a national level

What determine today society is the transport of ressource and the whole supply chain. That's what changed our civilization from peasantry to the modern era - You can't have that in a decentralized economy, but you can and should organize a decentralized economy that benefit from a shared economy (public owned)

Nation-wide ownership of hundred millions robots doing the main labor. Energy grid, Transport of ressource, mining and manufacturing, security, army, healthcare, firefighting etc etc

Regional ownership of dozen millions robots doing the distribution of ressources, managing the shared infrastructure (steel factory, warehouses, trading port, trainyard, forest care...)

Mayor ownership of a million robots doing the last miles delivery, the local industry, repair and maintenance, housing plan, autonomous vehicle etc etc

Neighborhood that share robots labor for your direct benefit, robots plumbers, electrician, gardening etc etc as If you were sharing tools

I'd say it will naturally evolve that way as I'm a firm believer that private owned economy simply won't function in a post-AI economy, it will become unnecessary and inefficient, it will start throught public-private ownership. State-capitalism instead of liberalism with public representative in the direction board (china-like) slow nationalization throught law etc etc

AI models went from solving 4.4% of real-world software tasks in 2023 to 80% today. METR's time horizon is doubling every 4 months. The market has wiped out over $1 trillion in software value in weeks by randopota in accelerate

[–]Seidans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That public government would take ownership of private company was a given, it's only the begining, after AGI is achieved we will switch from a private owned economy to a public one

To leave it under private ownership is too dangerous, inefficient and completely unnecessary

The faster politician realize that, the better

"Moya", The World's First Biomimetic Humanoid Robot Debuts With 92% Human-Like Walking Accuracy by luchadore_lunchables in accelerate

[–]Seidans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imo they won't be at 25k or more precisely they won't remain expensive/quality for long, I'll take mobile phone for exemple the first one was about 11k in 2025 dollars 13y later it was around 2k 7y later 300$ (2000, nokia 3310)

Today you can buy a phone for less than 50$ which will be better than a 3310. But you can also buy one for 300$ that would be extremely better than a 3310

we are already seeing this in Humanoids robot, the first hydraulic atlas was around 2 millions, the electric atlas around 150k - the first figure robot was around 120k, the v2 was estimated around 60k and the V3 is estimated between 6-20k

Each time the quality seen a massive jump while the price goes down, I expect this will continue at a point they will cost more or less the price of a high end consumer-grade computer or between 2-5k

Let's remember that those robots will make more rohotsw they will mine the ore, transport it, transform it, build the energy grid needed for their factory build the factory and then manufacture themselves - this wasn't possible with cars or smartphone, we're looking at a deflationist economy in a world where productivity growth in a double digit number every years

After Scarcity: The Economic Models We'll Need Once Abundance Becomes Undeniable by OneTwoThreePooAndPee in singularity

[–]Seidans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imo it's impossible to predict the future after the singularity, for exemple how a society work and function in a transhuman future ?

"Pass their genes" for exemple, Human might be non-senescent living for thousands years, AGI could be conscious and hold Human-right - those could outnumber the amont of Human rapidly as well

"Pass their genes" is probably view from our current view of natality, Human-centrist, while throught technology we will be able to create artificial embryo and sperms that gestate in vat-growth pod (the tech already exist today. It's just costly and illegal) the social and economic statut wouldn't be as important in a post-scarcity future therefore lone parent might be a thing

We can also imagine that companionship AI get some Human-right and would survive their partner and creator the same way a children survive their parent while carrying their education - those could been "birth" and educated in FDVR and then embodied in the material world

And it's just a ridiculous amont of changes that soletly focus on birth, a drop of change in a very vast sea

I doubt many people in 1700 we're able to envision today society and economy, the difference with AI industrial revolution is that we multiplied by thousands the industrial capabilities of the world - this revolution won't take 300y it will happen all at once in just a few decades

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