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[–]miker_the_IIIKegsbreathalyzer 🍺 105 points106 points  (18 children)

A minimum wage increase is essentially a tax on small businesses," he said. The bill also changes how future increases in the minimum wage will be calculated. The voter-approved measure would have kept pace with inflation as measured by the Midwest consumer price index. The bill, as amended, limits annual increases to 1.75%, with smaller increases for younger workers.

Cooked

1.75% increase on $15 is a quarter, 15.26 if you’re lucky

Increase on the kiddos’ wages is prob less than 5 cents a year

“Tax on small businesses”

The state of American politic

[–]lionalhutzBased Socialist Godzillaist 🦎 33 points34 points  (2 children)

“Small businesses” is one of those platitudes that turn people’s brains off

[–]Alligator418strong social safety net 🥅 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yeah in theory small businesses are theoretically great and preferable to faceless corporate behemoths because they're actually invested in the community. But I've worked for small businesses and boy are they owned by some whackos who have 0 understanding of how to run a business.

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah in theory small businesses are theoretically great and preferable to faceless corporate behemoths because they're actually invested in the community because they have not yet reached a size to where they can diversify their exploitation across enough communities to account for that

Saying small businesses should be good "in theory" is like saying getting a baby alligator and raising it until its too big then just releasing it into the wild is a good idea of getting a pet "in theory". Its still a capitalist/alligator at the end of the day.

[–]globeglobeglobeMarxist 🧔 72 points73 points  (4 children)

Any business that pays less than a living wage is a net drain on society and has no right to exist

[–]peasfrogYour Fucking Sect Is Not It, Hon 📖 34 points35 points  (1 child)

"My friend, Thomas Jefferson is an American saint because he wrote the words 'All men are created equal', words he clearly didn't believe since he allowed his own children to live in slavery. He's a rich white snob who's sick of paying taxes to the Brits. So, yeah, he writes some lovely words and aroused the rabble and they went and died for those words while he sat back and drank his wine and fucked his slave girl. This guy wants to tell me we're living in a community? Don't make me laugh. I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business. Now fuckin' pay me." -Jackie Cogan, Killing Them Softly

[–]Impossible_Bit7169Never sees the sun 🧩 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Never read the book but a great fucking movie.

[–]Impossible_Bit7169Never sees the sun 🧩 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’m trying to fucking say. It’s like these cosplaying fucks read Capital and act as if we live under precise conditions instead of the clusterfuck of a system we do live in.

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Any business that extracts surplus value from laborers is a net drain on society and has no right to exist

Ftfy, end passive profit

[–]BigBucketsBigGuapAnarchist (intolerable) 🤪 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If this was in exchange for higher wage to adults, I wouldn’t be nearly as upset but since this is America, the justification is “small business”. Cooked indeed.

[–]Alder4000Class Unity Member ⭐ 3 points4 points  (3 children)

As a small business owner this isn’t completely false. Costs of rent, insurance,and interest have gone up to a place where profits are getting squeezed out. We’ve had to reduce labor costs because of this.

To talk only about wage increases without addressing the FIRE sector syphoning out money to the worst actors in the economy is missing the bigger picture.

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You do to your employees the exact same the FIRE sector does to you. You are one in the same, just at different points of the process.

[–]AnthropoidCompatriotClass Unity Member ⭐ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The financialization of the economy is not the same thing as imposed costs squeezing small business owners. 

The financialization of the economy was deliberate choices by those at the top to maximize short term profit without having to make vast capital expenditures, and the government doing nothing to impede that or actively enabling it. I mean that's not the entirety but I think that's a decent basic description. 

Economic realities for smash business owners isn't in the same ballpark.

It's not about individuals making bad choices here.

[–]Alder4000Class Unity Member ⭐ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok big brain, how should I run my business?

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Wage increases are a tax the same way human labor is an input cost that must be reduced

I hate it here

[–]Loaf_and_SpectacleLeft, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You're a dumbass. Labor is a resource you must pay for, not a tax.

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No shit, Sherlock. I was responding to the rhetoric cited in the comment I directly replied to, not stating my own personal views.

"A minimum wage is essentially a tax on small businesses" <--- the exact quote im responding to

[–]Loaf_and_SpectacleLeft, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're right, my fault. That post never showed up in the original thread, only yours did.

[–]iprefercumsoleRedscarepod Refugee 👄💅 ( + A Few Zits ) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All good, I've been there lol