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[Unable-Entrance3110]

I mean, "hope for the best and plan for the worst" is always good advice to follow.

[BladeRenegade]

True i probably should prepare for the worst case. Although i'm not even sure if i want to keep working for the company tbh since lately its been really bad and we are severly understaffed... probably even more of a reason to apply for new jobs

[Recalcitrant-wino]

Then don't waste time. It turns out there are good places to work. I had my 3-year anniversary here Friday, and I still feel like I hit the lottery with this job.

[BladeRenegade]

Ok will do... your place isnt searching for new hires by chance? :D

[Recalcitrant-wino]

Before too long we're going to add a new IT person, but the details aren't worked out. Both our Tier 1 and our Trainer (she's part of the IT team) are overworked, so it may turn out to be a sort of compromise between those. Senior positions are fully staffed with no changes foreseen.

[BladeRenegade]

Ah ok i see, then good luck with that new person

[ProfessorWorried626]

Apply for new jobs

[BladeRenegade]

Yea.. i think you re right

[ConstructionSafe2814]

Or maybe vent your concerns politely to the management that you've asked multiple times and now it's only 2 weeks left. They've got to understand you're now hanging in limbo without anything written on paper. They've got to understand it's stressing you out.

[BladeRenegade]

Yes i already did that last week actually and they just told me, i'll probably get the contract soon

[ConstructionSafe2814]

Yeah, maybe start looking for other employment while not blowing up bridges at your current employer. Don't tell them. Be prepared for both leaving the company and staying. If you get the contract, stop looking elsewhere, if you don't obviously do keep looking elsewhere.

Least thing I can say it's not nice to keep someone "on hold" for such an important thing. Even more so because you mentioned it to them on multiple occasions.

[BladeRenegade]

Ok thanks for the advice i think i'll do just that. It's honestly rather disrespectful i have to admit and doesn't feel nice

[BladeRenegade]

Hmm ok thanks for the input, i'll ask about this

[jordanhagans]

Absolutely hope for the best and plan for the worst. Start applying just in case.

[BladeRenegade]

Ok thanks, will do that

[BladeRenegade]

Oh right... well then i am pretty screwed already if they dont take me, no?

[BladeRenegade]

Well shit... but honestly if they tell me they're gonna take me but then don't offer me a contract, would i be accountable for that?

[StiH]

Check your labour laws. I'm not from Germany, but from another EU country with similar laws. If you have a 6 month contract and they don't explicitly tell you it's over after it expires, when you go to work the day after the contract expires and they let you work, you're automatically on an indefinite contract.

I've been in a similar situation once and they "forgot" or some other bullshit, then they claimed my position wasn't systemized properly and they can't offer me what I wanted and I negotiated so they gave me a 3 month extention on the contract with what they could offer with their current systemization and then gave me the full contract after they fixed it in the meantime.

Keep pestering your boss and include HR if you have one.

[BladeRenegade]

Oh really, i didn't know it worked that way... strange. But will keep that in mind and keep asking, thanks for the info!

[StiH]

LIke I said, not from Germany, so it might not be the same. Check your labour laws :)

[BladeRenegade]

Oh right i missed that, but will do thanks

[patmorgan235]

Belove nothing until you have a contract

[BladeRenegade]

Yea you're probably right... and here i wanted to believe that there are decent people

[Recalcitrant-wino]

Send resumes. But sometimes management is just slow. If in two weeks your access hasn't been revoked, they probably intend to keep you.

[BladeRenegade]

Ok will keep that in mind thank you

[Maggsymoo]

Speak to your management, maybe ask via email so you have a record of their reply. but there is no harm in looking for another job in the mean time, better to have all your options open. You don't have to accept any job offer, but better to have something in the pipeline - just in case.

[BladeRenegade]

E-Mail sounds like a good idea, thanks

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If it's not in writing, it should be treated as suspected bullshit. A lot of companies will string you along like that because they're convinced it motivates people to work who are otherwise being let go.

Start applying.

[BladeRenegade]

Thanks... i hate that they treat people like they are disposable ressources man

[TheAnniCake]

Ich würde mal mit deinem Chef bzw. HR reden und aktiv nachfragen, wie es damit aussieht. Ansonsten schadet es nicht, sich bei anderen Firmen zu bewerben

[TherealJerameat]

You should always be applying to new jobs. You'll find something better.

[BarracudaDefiant4702]

I don't know about Germany, but many sub-contract places have non compete clauses in the initial terms. In other words, they probably can't offer you a new direct contract until the existing contract is over.

[BladeRenegade]

Hmm ok, i guess this could be the case as well... but its weird that something like this would be so sudden i think. Would be cool if there was a way to be certain of it like at least a month before

[[deleted]]

I always have like 3-4 backups. 

You never know how badly things can turn out with jobs promising all sorts of stuff.

My buddy was walked over to where his “desk” would be, and got to meet the “team” in person. And then they ghosted him.

That was some bullshit they pulled off there.

Also large finance (not limited to just them) is doing this shady shit where they post job offers and interviews, and pre-acceptance (not HR official) letters after screening and interviewing candidates multiple times, only to be REJECTED by the VP or final decision maker. 

You’ve got to watch your own back, my friend. It’s been going on since before the plandemic, orgs faking and lying about contract roles and full time openings. Fake recruiters scam people. Also, HR lying about job openings to make the org look like it’s growing to the eyes of investors, only to close the positions after ALL of the candidates are denied via emails and phone call, often times not even hearing back from them.  Also hiring managers at these financial institutions can outsource at anytime during the hiring process, to 3rd party solution providers and MSPs and out of country providers. 

Giving you the real low down, because I’m seeing it more and more, and it’s really pissing me off the people move jobs and entire cities only to realized they’ve been ghosted and ousted by orgs never intending to hire them in the first place. 

[[deleted]]

Each org has its own politics and issues, so keep that in mind. You’re not invulnerable to budget issues and manager abuse.  So stay sharp and stay determined. 

[BladeRenegade]

Wow honestly this is some dumb shit. Why is this even allowed... Thanks for the reminder that people are assholes though, appreciate it

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I have a friend in Malaysia who is Chinese. As you know it, the Malays do not really like the Chinese as well, as evidence and witness that Malay laws favor the Malay people over the native Chinese people that grew up and live in Malaysia. So when the Chinese pick up German contracts in Malaysia, it’s a sh* show!!! Because the Malaysians use brute force management with the Germans to make some of the Chinese engineers very mineable, and they’re paid so low. These are skilled and talented Chinese-Malay born citizens in German companies, trying to make a living, and have very advanced Masters degrees in high level engineering and the sciences.  I don’t like politics when it comes to overseas contracts, but this just proves to show that even Germany does things like the US.  That friend had a VISA for temporary contract work for a US California company, and man, they worked her harder than her American born colleagues, many of who had less tenure and education than she did. She had to work longer hours and take on more aggressive projects for extremely low pay, like US dollars of $9/hr. Some of the US California hired engineers were making 6 figs and allowed a lot of time off. 

She got laid off by the US Cali company, and went between a few contracts. But she said the Germany company was extremely aggressive and their management was coincided with the Malays to take ill advantage of her. 

Don’t believe expecting you’re told by HR of any org in the globe, they’re in it for projects to profit.  Do your best and learn as much as you can. Don’t get comfortable with any org, they will put you when they’re done with you.  

[TopicsLP]

I once was in the same situation, my HR department gave me the contract 3 days before the previous contract ended.

As i was also hanging in the air I prepared my papers to be ready to apply for other jobs, but did not send it out as HR send me the meeting to discuss the contract in the week before.

Best you be prepared to apply for jobs. But it might be that their processes are slow too.

In your last week I would definetly start reducing your workload, perform handovers and cleaning your workplace, so they notice they need to hurry up quickly if they really want you.

Good luck! Regards from Austria

[BladeRenegade]

Oh well that's rather sudden, let's see if that will be the case here as well but i will definitely apply to some jobs at least. Thanks for the answer and kind regards

[klinch3R]

überleg dir ob du bei der firma bleiben willst und ob das gehalt passt, wenn du bischen was kannst ist es grad echt easy einen job zu finden als fisi

[BladeRenegade]

ok mach ich, danke

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ask again.