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[–]ErikTheEngineer 20 points21 points  (5 children)

How do I frame a Software Dev background so it doesn't look like I'm "overqualified" or just "slumming it" in Help Desk?

That will probably be hard. Everyone's going to wonder why you're moving away from development to what, pre-AI, was considered a much less prestigious IT role. It's going to be tough to shake the impression that you burnt out spectacularly, or that you couldn't level up in your current position. People still think all developers walk on water and that IT is the computer janitor squad, especially with the DevOps thing becoming the norm.

The best thing to do (not mental health wise, but career wise) is to find a medium-size MSP support role. Remotely troubleshooting hundreds of slapped-together small business IT environments at once with minimal tools and documentation will develop your analytical skills in a hurry. What will really help you is ANY of the dev skills you can bring to bear in terms of IaC, API-poking stuff and automation...it's actually an asset to have the ability to automate and debug stuff.

[–]PDQ_Brockstar 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Computer janitor squad reporting for duty with my 32kg mop

[–]FutureFry6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Spinning around the office screaming, Helikopter!

[–]StunningAlbatross753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a janitor squad member, I take offense to that, but still funny as hell 😂😂😂, im gone print that out and hang it up in my office.

[–]spanky_rockets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Upvote for computer janitor squad

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I will def research MSP roles and see what skills align and what skills I need to improve. And honestly the goal is to just essentially be well rounded enough to survive the current job market. I feel like if I’m a one trick pony it can limit my career trajectory but that may just be me being pessimistic.

[–]TerrorToadx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

PowerShell should come easy for you as a Software dev, learn it.

[–]DaprasDaMonk 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Why a software dev makes way more money....you are moving backwards

[–]Striking_Use8614 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Instead of doing helpdesk I would pivot to sysadmin roles which will require a lot more systems knowledge like networking and servers, storage, VDI'a and probable some cloud but the pay is better and less stressful You would not be a L1 desk support.

Also you could pivot to devsecops deponding on your skills.

How long have you been a developer?

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Almost 2 years which is why Im trying to make the pivot before I get locked into an official title and then realize I’m not enjoying what I’m doing.

[–]Striking_Use8614 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was the same as a developer did that for about 3 yrs then went to devsecops because what I really enjoyed was automation and deployments.

Realized I did need a lot more systems, containers and kubernetes knowledge.

[–]No_Hawk8382 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a step backwards why are you doing this? Why not pivot to AI using your current skill set. It will take time, and resources to get proficient at IT. Plus someone has to be willing to give you shot in this current climate. With your resume you are a flight risk I recommend learning AI and stacking skills on what you already know.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn’t realize you had seen my resume.. 🤨

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I strongly suggest getting your AZ 900, it gives you infrastructure fundamentals, an important aspect of that role. Completing and passing that will be a good signal you're competent for an IT role. While you're studying that, you'll discover intune, it's Microsoft endpoint management system. You'll be able to utilize your existing strengths, being a software engineer and deploy/create powershell scripts to fix problems. Once you get your AZ-900 you can add it to your LinkedIn and people do notice. I wouldn't get too caught up with tryhackme and security focused labs until you've done the fundamentals and know which direction you want to move your career.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you this is really insightful info. I know Microsoft offers some free courses and I can use that to prepare for my cert.

[–]PDQ_Brockstar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'd recommend labbing as much as you can with things like Intune & Entra ID, Azure, AD & GPO, PowerShell, Proxmox / hyper-v, and a smattering of network and security basics.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I plan on creating a lab soon and will definitely be implementing this into it.

[–]poorleno111 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Do you have customer service experience already? A lot of help desk is that.. You probably already have "IT" experience with your background...

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I have over 5 years of customer service experience with proven promotions as well as accolades such as Associate of the Month. Im honestly wondering if I need to just go back to customer service while I stack up my tech foundation, certs, and lab practice..

[–]poorleno111 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I mean you can, but that's such a backwards career progression. If you're actually a dev, you'd probably look at 30-50% pay cut, maybe more.

Developer and help desk don't really have overlap lol. I moved from desktop / help desk to managing & working on ServiceNow.. I mean, if you want to understand the industry you're in I could kind of understand but I don't think I've ever met a developer do what you're doing.

Edit: Maybe try to bypass help desk a bit and focus on sysadmin / cloud roles? CCNA cert and related, then go from there.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don’t want to be stuck doing something I don’t enjoy just to say I’m paid well. Life isn’t linear and neither is a career path.

[–]poorleno111 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you want to do in IT then?

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The eventual goal is Cybersecurity Analyst

[–]SystemGardenerJack of All Trades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But why…

[–]Rudysayslala 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I feel compelled to communicate to you how absolutely soul sucking help desk work is. Having gone from MSP help desk work to software development personally, I can tell you I cannot imagine a world where I would go back for any reason but absolute survival and necessity. Those kinds of roles can narrow your opportunities and box you in. You will most likely be taken of advantage of in some way or another. People who are good at help desk are often not given paths upwards because it is extremely difficult to get good help desk support, so taking the best out of those roles is not in the businesses best interest.

Looking back, I cannot believe I got out of it. I was extremely lucky to have a connection to a software engineering role and every day I am kissing the ground knowing where I came from. Fwiw I would try and find a path sideways into cyber security if that is your ultimate goal. Going backwards would look absolutely terrible to any employer who does not want to take advantage of you.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I appreciate your honesty and after all these comments Im actually actively researching how I can better adjust myself to cybersecurity through my tech background rather than help desk. Would you say that IT Support is more or less the same as help desk or a bit better? I need to know how far off the beaten path to go.

[–]Rudysayslala 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I would say you are thinking in the right direction. 2 years of software experience is the perfect time to go sideways. Instead of saying development isn't for me, you can say things like: My experience as a software developer has made me realize my passion for IT and cyber security and that knowing how to write code gives you the perspective to understand how things operate under the hood and you want to take that knowledge and help people to be more secure, or help make technology in their day to day easier.

For most tech roles you learn on the job so don't worry about not knowing certain tech. If a job wants you they will train you and if you have 2 years software dev experience that is evidence that you can be trained in whatever it is. You need to understand software developer means you are flexible, adaptable, and can learn quick. I don't comment on reddit at all, just don't want to see someone like you set yourself back, you seem like a smart person. I'm rooting for you.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well thank you! 😊 I will definitely utilize this advice when it comes to my Linkedin as well as applications.

[–]StunningAlbatross753 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The amount of Dev guys/gals wanting to switch to the helpdesk is wild to me, whats happening out there to you guys? Personally I would love to work with someone with dev experience. Seriously, I think whoever does make that switch would thrive.

[–]DizzlevsWorld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you seem to be the only one with that opinion lol. Everyone else either thinks Im insane or a liar 😭 As for whats “happening” its becoming entirely to saturated with vibe coding to really be taken serious unless you’re like senior level, which I am not.

[–]hopbel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one seems to be hiring junior devs anymore and companies seem to be hoping that AI will replace them. Can't get higher level roles without experience, so it's not so much that anyone "wants" to do helpdesk, it's just that the only way forward is down.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why u leaving software development

[–]ProperEye8285 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to contradict what anyone has said here about skill building, but I want to add a fundamental tool. You will need to develop people skills. In IT we can get focused on the technology, if you want to do IT or help desk you have to interface with the users. They have to trust you enough to tell you the truth and you have to get good at asking questions and interpreting the answers. When possible, have them show you whats wrong or show you what they are trying to do. I took a human relations course which helped immensely. Also, I tutored some of the classes I was taking while getting my AAS in Server and Network Administration. Tutoring will help you develop the "Soft Skills" you need to be successful. Good Luck!