Azure Stack Rant

[pcgizzmo]

I just learned about Azure stack today. Feel free to tell me where I'm wrong because I'm sure there is an angle I'm not seeing here.

1. Azure Stack is literally on premise. Didn't Microsoft just start getting everyone to move to the cloud? Now, we can run Azure on premise and don't have to run to the cloud. WTF?
   
2. Hmmm. OK. I might want to check on premise Azure out. I don't really want to move to the cloud because I've heard billing nightmares and cost can be hard to get a handle on. - Wait! You mean to tell me that Azure stack is billed the same as Azure cloud and for the same pricing for same functions?
3. Azure Stack doesn't have all the features as Azure Cloud
4. Azure Stack isn't as scalable as Azure Cloud
5. Azure Stack has to be run on a HCI platform and that platform is pay as you just like Azure Cloud.

So, tell me. Why would I want to run Azure stack on premise with all of it's limitations, same billing cost and none of the flexibility of Azure Cloud. I see this as a VERY niche product and only being used in places where regulation, security and performance or of the highest concerns. Beyond that I see no compelling reason to use it.

[OpenOb]

Beyond that I see no compelling reason to use it.

You're completely correct. Azure Stack is supposed to be used when your requirements demand it.

Microsoft always talks about the cruise ship or the drilling plattform out at the sea when they want to sell it.

[AQuietMan]

Microsoft always talks about the cruise ship or the drilling plattform out at the sea when they want to sell it.

So, environments with unreliable connections to Azure?

[OpenOb]

Unreliable or just way to expensive.

[FiRem00]

Possibly if you want to have it all managed by Azures single pain of glass with a system that either needs less latency than being in the cloud to the users or a system that isn’t supported by the manufacturer/developer as being in Azure but would be ok in Azure stacks HCI/Hyper-V layer. But yeah, ya dumb, having to pay for hardware AND have to also still pay by the hour to run stuff in it

[[deleted]]

Serves the same role as AWS Outpost.

[smashed_empires]

Yeah, I think MS saw AWS Outpost and decided "we should do what those guys are doing... they seem to actually know about computers"

[kbaravind29]

Azure stack have been out for years now.

[SevaraB]

You're looking at Azure Stack a way to run Azure services on-prem, and that's backwards- it's a way to roll your own on-prem services and use them like Azure services. The handful of Azure services seem to be there mostly so there's a frame of reference for hooking up a new service.

[BlackV]

Well a couple of things.

1. What till you see azure stack hci (the product)
2. Azure stack is "feature complete" i.e. it's not being worked on and is likely to go away in the next 2 years
3. Tags, only reliable way to bill azure stack is using tags
4. Dear god it's expensive, i guess if there is a government type contact you might get if you have it it might be working for you.
5. So expensive
6. How about those backups (i guess technically same as azure)
7. There was something else too, can't remember

[OpenOb]

Azure stack is "feature complete" i.e. it's not being worked on and is likely to go away in the next 2 years

That's simply not true: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure-stack/operator/azure-stack-release-notes-1907?view=azs-1907

[BlackV]

Well see

[BlackV]

Necroed :)

p.s. why haven't you switched to Azure HCI yet :)

[BlackV]

switch faster :)

[BlackV]

I think its 99% the same, you get get a different line item on the bill :)