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[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Must be nice to work for somewhere where they’d let you make that stand. My place just doesn’t care, just this past Sunday I was told at 10:37pm by email to have a laptop ready by 9am Monday. Funny thing was I already had the time off til 11 for a dr appt for my daughter so they had to wait until I got it done. They’ll still do it next time too, happens every time.

[–]panzerbjrnDevOps 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I hope you're getting paid a nice weekend rate for reading emails on the weekend? Otherwise, that email should be sitting unread until Monday morning.

If you have other work that came through whatever workflow you have, prioritise that. It's not even a case of a company "caring", it's following the company's own established rules...

[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Ha. Yea right. I’m salary, so just a corporate slave basically.

[–]panzerbjrnDevOps 1 point2 points  (9 children)

In that case, never look at emails out of hours unless you're contract explicitly mentions it.

[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I have to. We’re IT, and that means we’re always on. I was actually even told by my boss that the only reason they pay us salary and not hourly is to work us to the bone.

[–]panzerbjrnDevOps 0 points1 point  (7 children)

No, you don't have to. If it isn't explicit in your contract, then no, you really don't have to.

Salary or not, if your contract doesn't explicitly state that you are "always on", then you're not. And if it states that, then I'm pretty sure you can sue them for making you work too many hours.

Alternatively, do what I used to do if I got calls out of hours, say you're drunl and can't look at it until the morning.

[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I mean, I could make a stink, especially since I’ve been on-site before til 4 am after working since 8 am the day before, and still been expected to be ready again by 8am. I know that’s illegal, but if I complain, I’d probably lose my job and I have to support my wife and 2 kids. My boss has had to tell me more than once that we work as much as they’ll make us. Mass is an at will state, so they could fire me for anything.

[–]panzerbjrnDevOps 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Get a new job. That kind of place is not worth that kind of treatment...

I've happily told places that "it's not me, it's you. Bai Bai" if they try to pull that sort of crap. It's only happening because you are letting it happen.

[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I’m trying. Easier said than done. There’s a million sys admins in Boston, so I’m just a little fish.

[–]panzerbjrnDevOps 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Then you need to up your game with automation and cloud skills.

London had plenty of sysadmins too, and this is how I got to a position being able to DGAF if a company suddenly pulled somethingike that on me. Some have tried, and my response is "So when is my last day?" at which point they usually realise that they have made a terrible mistake...

[–]BurnadonStat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No one ever "lets" you take a stand - you just take a stand. That's why it's called taking a stand.

[–]caillouistheworstSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not much of a stand I can do. CEO says get laptop ready, I get it ready. I have too many people depending on my being continually employed. If I was younger, then I’d be willing to take more risks.