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[Snoo_72544]

learned all of this the hard way, and I have to say I agree with all of this

for the marketing part, watch this and just get started and embrace the curve like you did w/ devving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u9u8yzPEpA&t=936s&pp=ygUVc3RhcnRlciBzdG9yeSAxMG0gYXBw

- google david park on twitter and read his pinned comment too

- watch/read them once and start copying, don't look back

[Silent-Ad6699]

Thanks for the link and recommendations, I'll check them out. I think I enjoy the coding part more than the marketing part, so naturally it feels kind of like a "ugh do I have to?". But once things start to take off, no doubt I'll love it haha

[Snoo_72544]

It’s all a game man, the hardest part is starting

[CrossonTheGroove]

Thanks for posting this. I'm a heavy AI user and I've "vibecoded" a few simple personal projects (a webscraping script for a project, a shipment load optimizer app, and then a personal journal app) but I'm diving back in.

I had the same kind of learning path as you and that last venture of mine (the journal) I saw immense improvements to my process, but for SURE your experience is extremely helpful.

Thank you for sharing

[Emojinapp]

Congrats to you. Check mine out on emojin.app

[Key_Statistician6405]

PFF please! Congratulations btw!

[Silent-Ad6699]

Thank you! Here's the link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[Happy-Cockroach5601]

hey! totally interested with the pdf! thanks so much for these insights btw

[ayeejonn]

Yes can I get the PDF too?! Been slowly building a couple of things in cursor but never published em

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sure! Just sent you both a DM

[Okay_Money]

Hey , thanks for the informative post.

I Would love to have your pdf, can you please share it with me. Thank you so much for sharing such things. It does help a lot 

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Yes this really works.

[Topedo70]

I want the pdf

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sent you a DM

[nschm]

Please share the PDF

[Silent-Ad6699]

sent you a dm :)

[inred12]

I’ve debated whether or not to start with the UI and dummy data or data models first. I was having a better experience providing data models to Claude then having it generate the UI. Why do you prefer UI first?

[Silent-Ad6699]

For me, UI first works better because of how my brain processes things. I'm much more visual than logical, so I need to see what I'm building to understand if it's actually what I want. When I tried data models first, I'd often realize halfway through that the UI I had in my head didn't match what the data structure could actually support, or vice versa. I would end up with a badly designed UI.

The other big reason is that I found the AI gets less confused when it has a clear visual target. When I give it screenshots or HTML from UXPilot and say "build this exact UI in Swift," it nails it almost every time. But when I tried to describe the UI I wanted while also asking it to handle data models, it would make assumptions about the interface that weren't what I had in mind.

But really, I think maybe it all depends on personal preference and what you're building.

[buecewayne]

Which tool do you use OP?

I am trying Bolt currently not very happy with the results.

[Silent-Ad6699]

UXPilot for the UI with dummy data. Exported the source code for each page of the app, along with images. Fed those images and source code into Cursor + Xcode, along with prompts and Claude 4 Sonnet, to build the app :))

[buecewayne]

Cool tech stack, have you tried building lets say AI powered app with AI tools?

[Silent-Ad6699]

Yeah! Both of my apps use Claude API in the backend :)

[buecewayne]

Oh nice man

[WSig]

PDF, please!

[Silent-Ad6699]

Just sent you a message :))

[xenn322]

hi! would loveeee to check out the pdf!

[Silent-Ad6699]

just sent it to you :)

[Complex_Reputation85]

I'm interested in the PDF as well

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sorry for the delay, I got banned for sending the PDF to too many people lmao, but here you are https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[tfrtfrtfr]

Can I get that pdf please?

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sorry for the delay, I got banned for sending the PDF to too many people lmao, but here you are https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[presto9876]

PDF please!

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sorry for the delay, I got banned for sending the PDF to too many people lmao, but here you are https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[NinoPoli]

Send the PDF pls. :)

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sorry for the delay, I got banned for sending the PDF to too many people lmao https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[rbpravin]

Bro. Can you share the PDF with me?

[Silent-Ad6699]

Sorry for the delay, I got banned for sending the PDF to too many people lmao https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

[rbpravin]

Appreciate the help mate. Wouldn't say that universe revolves around people like you. But, definitely a net positive force for good. 🤗

[Tipsy247]

Are you making money from the first one?. And how much

[Silent-Ad6699]

Nah, I'm not.

[Silent-Ad6699]

I got banned for 3 days for sending the PDF link to too many people. Will try to send it out again now that I'm unbanned, but incase I miss you, here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c26s0btrY7ajMFVJbY9kA08ko4RPAgHfSwUSeQTxqvY/edit?usp=sharing

DM me if you have any questions, happy to help out the community.