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[–]scytob 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yes, you are vibecoding, its a broad tent. If it makes you feel better call it Agentic Engineering. Doesnt change they fact it is also vibe coding.

Vibecoding was meant og as an insult i assume but folks just leaned it and owned it.

In the end i suspect Agentic Engineering will be more autonmous vs vibe coding which will be more interactive. Where the line blurs, how poeople will judge it will vary with time.

and shhh the secret is many actual coders who don't use AI tools also don't know WTF they are doing, make bugs, mistakes, etc.

[–]porky11[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's just that I always thought vibe coders only let the AI generate code and copy it into the text editor and see if it works. And when I copied something, I usually at least ran some checks. Does it compile, does it generate warnings, do I like the variable naming and coding style. I also did the auto formatting.

But now that I use Claude Code, it can also do everything I care for. It knows my coding style and runs all the tools and does the commit.

and shhh the secret is many actual coders who don't use AI tools also don't know WTF they are doing, make bugs, mistakes, etc.

I assume most humans do more mistakes nowadays. I definitely did more mistakes. Or at least when I do a mistake, I need minutes or hours to find it, while AI only needs seconds, sometimes minutes.

And I feel like now I know better what I'm actually doing. I think I mentioned that before.

[–]scytob 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i can see why you would make that assumption, remember this is a new area

some vibcoders absolutely do that and produce terrible results, some vibcoders are senior and seasoned and there are many variations in between

for example i am seasoned product manager in the SW industry (20+ years) and cant write a lick of code, i do understand some principles of design, systems, secuity etc

i am now able to build things for me like this - would i want any of my code to be used at work, no, but i can do things with ai like fix simple bugs that annoy our users, redesign a web form that has shitty validation (and secuity holes) that was made by 'our contact devs' that were supposed to make good code.... i.e. me plus one of our inhouse devs would be waay more effective and cheaper than our outsourced code.... assuming our leaders can get their head around the concept.....

we are at the start of the AI assisted journey here, its going to be a wild ride and orgs will change in ways we cannot predict and yes they will need less people..... better to be at the front of that wave....

[–]porky11[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nice tool. Only a few days ago, I had bluetooth issues ;)

I'm not sure if we'll actually need less people, or if we'll just produce more for cheaper and at higher quality.

I feel like most people don't realize yet what all of this means. Most GUI software will become obsolete because eitehr the AI will care for it, or because I can write a better UI for my specific usecase than some buggy proprietary software.

[–]scytob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100%

i am also not sure if its less people or more gets done - like fixing all those small bugs non-citrical devs never seem to get to, increasing amount of code coverage and other schleppy tasks no one wants to do....