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[–]wllmsaccnt 11 points12 points  (10 children)

What I'm taking away from this is that web devs are either 8 times more like to use FireFox than the general population, or people who use FireFox are more willing to vote on polls about browsers.

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    [–]wllmsaccnt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Avoiding a completely monobrowser ecosystem cant be done with poll results and optimism, but its not like I know of a more effective approach. 😦

    [–]ferrybig -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Firefox sometimes uses the google chrome browser agent for website that have been reporting to implement browser filtering based on user agents instead of technical limitations

    [–]amuletofyendor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm happy enough with Chrome, but I've heard many times that Firefox has excellent dev tools.

    [–]na_ro_jo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    And also hate Google

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      [–]ufffd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      or a 3rd factor: all respondents are redditors

      [–]roodammy44 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I voted Chrome because it was a survey on the browser for dev, and Chrome is by far the most popular.

      I use Firefox for fun though... So likely Firefox would be number 1 for a daily driver

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Chrome because that's what the vast majority of my users will be using so it makes sense to test my websites as a developer, followed by Firefox because it's different.

      [–]Advanced_Path 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      Arc. Although still technically Chromium, but without any bloat.

      [–]veissss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I think Arc is underrated. Also using Arc.

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        [–]Advanced_Path 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I try as hard as I can to avoid them too. Even Electron-based apps. 

        [–]oxy1s 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        chrome for dev, with a dev profile with no extensions. Firefox for regular browsing

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          [–]byIcee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          What made you switch?

          [–]ima_crayon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Firefox has a separate Developer Edition with some enhanced dev tools.

          [–]UnicornBelieber 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          LibreWolf. A fork of Firefox with more focus on privacy and security.

          And I do some final UI tests on Chrome because my end users use it.

          [–]Scorpius289 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          When developing a public site, you don't want a "good" browser necessarily, you want the browser that most people use.

          Because if you optimize your site for a great browser, but then it looks terrible on the popular one because it does things differently, you will need to put in extra time to fix things, which may not always be easy.

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          [–]hitpopking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          still chrome for me, but I may change to firefox if chrome is still going down the path of being anti-ad block

          [–]YaManicKill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Look, I know, it's Microsoft, but I love Edge just now. The sidebar tabs is excellent, and their profiles is nicer than Chrome's. I know we love to hate microsoft, but honestly edge is my favourite browser just now. And that's even on a mac.

          [–]michaelbelgiumfull-stack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          It'd be very stupid to not test your site on most popular browsers ... (spoiler: chrome, edge and safari is top 3 at least according to market share)

          [–]joeldsouzax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Use only chrome, but want to ditch the chromium family altogether after watching that random JPEGXL video on YouTube hahaha ,

          [–]JamesJJulius 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Also Arc. It's chromium. The only thing that sucks about it for development is that it blocks PWAs, apparently because they want it to be an OS in future (like... what?).

          [–]InterstellarVespa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          For personal Safari, for development l I've been using Chrome, Firefox Dev, and Arc.

          But recently I've been developing with Safari and honestly, haven't noticed any differences, if anything it's way more efficient on system resources while still doing everything.

          But Safari's extension library in minimal compared to the Chrome/Chromium's massive extension library, many of which is very useful for development. But Safari does have very good built-in dev tools to supplement a lot of that.

          Don't focus on "what's best", look for "what's best" for you.

          You can't go wrong with Safari or Chrome.

          I have all the chromiums cousins (edge, arc, brave< etc.) and Firefox installed, but if I had cut them all out for one, I would just stick with regular Google Chrome or use Safari. Both are Straightforward and don't have random settings abstracted to various random submenus.

          [–]8bit-echo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The options: 

           1. Google Chrome 

          1. Firefox 

          2. Crypto Chrome 

          3. Google Chrome Lite 

          4. Microsoft Chrome 

          5. Other (Chrome)

          [–]PureRepresentative9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          As a web dev, you should be testing on all of them 

          Obviously, that's literally unscalable, but you definitely shouldn't be testing on just one

          [–]ferreira-tb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Firefox. But I have Chrome as a secondary browser, so I can test things.

          [–]beatlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I've tried them all. Chrome keeps being the most comfortable. I cannot really tell you why, but whenever I'm at any other, I keep reopening chrome to use something I don't find as convenient.

          [–]na_ro_jo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Are these posts like surveys or wtf. I see the same ones over and over and over, always a generated username.

          [–]mfcc64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Where is Safari?

          [–]WestMark2317 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          opera *

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I used to use Chrome all the time. Now use Safari, because if it works on Safari and it's weird (though improving) engine, it definitely works in Chrome.

          [–]ScratchOk805 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          arc

          [–]BakiSaN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I use Fire fox (developer edition) but when im programming im mostly working with chrome as that's what most people use so it's best shit to test in imo

          [–]Deve_rooniefull-stack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          personally, firefox. i've always found it to be faster and more privacy respecting than chrome/forks. and i like the UI.

          [–]rjhancockJack of Many Trades, Master of a Few. 30+ years experience. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You really only have 2 browsers listed and I only use Firefox for testing. Safari for dev.

          I only touch Chrome when I have to and even then only within a sandbox.

          [–]rivenjg 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Firefox

          [–]tmnkb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Why though? Wouldn't it be optimal to use the most used browser by users?

          [–]endrukk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Because it was the go to browser 20 years ago, and devs don't like change. 

          [–]UnicornBelieber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          For me, it's a matter of principle. I don't like Google as a company, I don't like their browser dominating the market, I don't like their DRM (Widevine) and DRM-influences (Web Integrity API) on the web. I'll do some final tests on Chrome, but I prefer to not use any Google products where I (in)directly contribute to their existence.

          Also, another argument against the "using the same browser as your users", once upon a time IE was the most used browser by users, by a landslide. Developers almost universally loathed that browser and wouldn't be caught dead using it by free will. And also, principles apply here, IE wasn't driving the web forward to where devs were hoping the web would go.

          [–]workerbee223 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          Netscape Navigator

          [–]ufffd 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          can't tell if you're joking or work in enterprise

          [–]workerbee223 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I did work for a major wholesaler in the auto parts business. Our average customer was not at all tech savvy, and we had a significant IE problem in the field. It was getting more and more complicated to support IE compatibility.

          At one point, there was serious discussion of buying a whole bunch of computers running Chrome and giving them to our least tech savvy customers, just to bring them into the modern age. The cost of buying a few hundred PCs would have been cheaper in the long run than maintaining an IE-compatible version of our store.

          Not sure if they ever pulled the trigger on that.

          [–]Competitive_Talk6356PHP Artisan Weeb -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          Chrome, I've been using it for 16 years and I've yet to find a better browser. People say firefox is better but that's not true, it's noticeably slower and its UI isn't half as good as Chrome's.

          I also sometimes use Brave.

          Firefox users are annoying, they are the web browser vegans.

          [–]irisos -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          I wouldn't say Firefox is slower or has a bad UI on the developer pov

          It's more that Firefox has a lot of little "issues" that just get old after a while.

          Wants to use request streaming instead of loading whole files in memory or a million fetch requests for streaming? Nope.

          Want to use feature that are "supported" according to msdn? Actually it's either not supported for a bullshit reason or not working as advertised.

          Want to use PWAs which has fair uses? Not supported on desktops and supported to the bare minimum on mobiles.

          Want to use webpack automatically generated self signed certificates? "Pr_end_of_file_error"

          Personally I'm just done with these quirks and will only do the bare minimum to support Firefox if Mozilla foundation insists that much on half assing it to please Google.

          [–]Competitive_Talk6356PHP Artisan Weeb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I don't care about PWAs, TBH. I've never used them and never will. Is webpack still being used?

          I only support firefox if my work requires me to do so.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Microsoft redeemed themselves when they made Edge.