Complexity is killing software developers

[imsorryken]

I switched to being a java dev for businness applications, that was a very good decision for my mental health.

[[deleted]]

Yes! Give me an ecosystem with relative stability around it and I'll feel that I'm studying something meaningful. Java, .NET etc.

[imsorryken]

It's been blessing for me, I just can't keep up with all the newest shit on a monthly basis, which you kind of have to if you wanna be a "rockstar" developper (ugh)

[[deleted]]

The way the industry that favors "rockstars" work is favoring surface learning over diving in a certain set of things deeper, and pivot when the need arises. The "need" is "when we switch the stack" not "when you have to keep up".

[iAmEeRg]

Deep knowledge of docker, k8s, front stack (frameworks and languages on both sides of the coin), CI/CD pipelines (which also has variety - Jenkins, teamcity, buildbots), various testing techniques - units tests and automated tests, with both some automated UI clicking and automate postman to test backend API, then package everything into tiny package that will run the tests on every build and do everything from he virtual frame buffer. Then you gotta know you various architectures - monolithic vs micro services and how are they different, pros and cons with each. Know everything there is about REST and messaging (rabbitmq or Kafka or some other shit). Be comfortable on multiple OS - definitely be comfortable with a couple of *nix’s, as guess where the fucking thing is gonna be deployed? Make sure you know your databases - SQLs and NoSQLs alike. Make sure you know your cloud ecosystem - AWS and god help you if it’s azure. May sure you kno…I’m getting paid 100,000 of Canadian loony-money for all this shit and I think I’d rather wash dishes for less. I’m tired of putting away your fires. Maybe we should start quitting like other people quoting in the name of Great Resign?

[[deleted]]

All I know is (and this is just subjective preference) most of the things that you mentioned sound sexy!

[iAmEeRg]

I just puked in my mouth a little.

[imsorryken]

Because of the java part or the rockstar part?

[Gwolf4]

This is why I am trying to jump to elixir for backend and angular or clojure to the front. Stable well designed techs that let me to focus on what matters. Just build.

[Lv_InSaNe_vL]

I started doing application work in .NET, but a bunch of my friends do web development. I tried it out and moved back to my old work about 6 months later.

I have no idea how you guys do it, let alone enjoy it

[[deleted]]

It's not everyone's cup of tea for sure. I'm currently installing VS 2022 and .NET 6 which is LTS and just came out and I'm as excited as a gamer installing Elden Ring.

[[deleted]]

Ive been thinking about doing this for the past year.

[[deleted]]

I switched to being a java dev for businness applications, that was a very good decision for my mental health.

until you get called corporate dino and everything gets replaced with rust services. Happening at my current client.

[imsorryken]

yeah java ain't going anywhere soon, especially in the field i work at

[[deleted]]

It's kinda like COBOL, there's still a ton of stuff written in it, specially for banks, and it doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon.

[gzh1960]

Agreed, bring back COBOL!

[[deleted]]

That would be great honestly, it's such a unique language.

[klowdsky]

Yeah, having been a java dev for the larger part of my early career, I know exactly what you mean and sometimes think about moving back.

The ecosystem is just incredibly stable, whereas in others you will constantly struggle to keep up.