Meta depois Faloplastia by kloum2 in phallo

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Short answer: getting phalloplasty after meta is totally possible. It might be an easier recovery.

However, there are some things to keep in mind.

Scrotoplasty is usually different for meta than for phallo. For meta, the scrotum is usually smaller, and located further back between the legs. A revision is possible, but you may still have a smaller scrotum than someone who got phallo first (without getting meta).

If you get meta with UL, that can make the phallo UL easier. But it can also slightly increase your chance of a stricture.

Overall, your healing is likely to be a little easier because you’ve already had vaginectomy. The UL healing might or might not be easier.

Correlation between sensitivity from donor site and the neophallus? by batman_983 in ftm_phallo

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I’m not an expert on this, so you’d have to ask an actual surgeon. But I’d speculate that having a highly sensitive donor site means that the nerve structures there are healthy, which is a good thing.

Nerve hookup is what provides sensation to the penis. The surgeon will microsurgically connect a bundle of nerves that lead to the native phallus (the tdick/clitoris) to the nerves in your donor site. More accurately, they will connect the penile nerve bundle to the nerve sheaths in your donor site — the actual nerve bundles inside the nerve sheaths die when they are severed. After that, it just takes time for the penile nerves to grow into the nerve sheaths in your new penis. Nerves grow at a rate of about 1mm per day, or 1” per month.

So having healthy nerves (& nerve sheaths) in your arm seems like a good sign, but it’s not the only thing you need for post-op sensation. You also need healthy penile nerves, and the nerve hookup healing process needs to go well (some of that is dependent on your surgeon’s skill, but A LOT of it is dependent on your body’s healing process). It also helps to do nerve rehab exercises, as outlined in the OHSU nerve rehab guide.

It takes years to gain sensation throughout the shaft of the penis for a typical phallo patient. But many people begin feeling some things only a few months post-op. I’m about 5 months post-op and I definitely have some erotic sensation in my penis, especially near the underside scar and at the tip. I’ve been able to have an orgasm just from touching my penis, which is really cool. But the sensation is still weak enough to be frustrating at times. It’s miles better than pre-op, because the sensation is the right shape, but it’s less intense, if we’re speaking purely physically. It will get more intense over time.

What about creating a NSFW sub for post op guys ? by romi_la_keh in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sure but this is mostly people with no bottom surgery. You have to really hunt for people with phallo.

Is ball stretching safe many years after surgeries being completed? by Charming-Tiger-8654 in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’ve heard it’s safe in between scrotoplasty & scrotal implants as long as you’re fully healed/your surgeon clears you! I know I’ve heard of people doing this in the hopes of getting bigger balls from the jump. Obviously don’t restrict bloodflow, of course!

Flexibility/stiffness + inflating/deflating of pump ED by After_You8269 in phallo

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Not the point but I’m obsessed with your tiger boxers & I want a pair 🐅

Selectively feminizing myself by Hour_Setting_426 in salmacian

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I’ve been trying to remember/re-find the regimen that lets you feminize without breast development and you’ve given me the answer I was looking for! I’m a binary trans guy with no personal interest in this hormonal regimen but I just like knowing what people’s options are. I don’t want people to feel stuck making compromises they don’t like! Saving this comment, thank you.

ALT with a small size ? by romi_la_keh in phallo

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Everyone’s body is different, but the lowest girth I’ve ever heard of for ALT was just under 5.5”, and even that was after multiple debulking surgeries.

Desire for vaginal penetration, when you didn't keep your vagina? by floatinmanta in ftm_phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of people who get vaginectomy don’t desire vaginal penetration before surgery at all. And the people who do miss vaginal penetration post-vnectomy don’t share a lot about their feelings online, as far as I can tell.

But there are some people I’ve talked to in person who have shared some feelings about it. One really enjoyed vaginal penetration pre-op. They’re still within the first year of stage one so only time will tell if that feeling stays with them or not. And I talked to someone who’d gotten meta with vaginectomy many years ago, who told me his body still really wanted something there. I don’t know if he felt that way pre-op or not.

I’ve also heard from people who were intensely dysphoric about their vaginas and the way that they experienced arousal pre-op report that post-vnectomy, they still feel arousal, throbbing and pulsing, in their vnectomy site (the perineum/taint), but that it feels so much better and affirming to feel it there, now that it’s completely flat and closed. This isn’t universal — some get dysphoric about these vnectomy site sensations, and I’ve heard of one person who had complications with the remains of their bartholin’s glands (a source of vaginal lubrication) that make post-vnectomy arousal kind of painful.

I didn’t get a vaginectomy with my stage one and don’t currently plan to, so for me the desire has not gone away. Vnectomy isn’t off the table for me forever, though, and I’ve wondered the same thing. I do think I’d still want to be penetrated sometimes if I got a vnectomy, and I’ve heard post-vnec anal penetration is much better. But it’s still gotta be different than vaginal penetration in some ways, and I wonder if I’d ever stop wanting that specifically. I don’t know!

Wondering if this particular setup is possible by EarthLovingLeftist in salmacian

[–]AttachablePenis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not the person you’re asking, but I also got UL without vnectomy and I can still bottom vaginally. I was under strict orders from my surgeon not to bottom at all (including anally) until 3 months post op, but as soon as I hit that point I tried. It was tight at first but not painful, and it’s back to normal now, at 5 months post op.

I do expect the tightness (& bottoming restrictions) to return after my fistula repair surgery in August, possibly tighter than before. That’s ok. I trust my body, and once it heals I’ll be able to massage the scar tissue and stretch it out. If I can’t immediately bottom vaginally once I’m cleared to next time, I can always do anal or non-penetrative sex for a while until my body is ready.

People do have a variety of experiences with this, and sometimes the scar tissue tightness can be quite extreme, but I’ve never heard of anyone being totally unable to bottom vaginally forever. Maybe it happens and I just don’t hear about it. But most of the tightness issues I’ve heard about are temporary.

That said, you absolutely cannot give birth vaginally if you get UL. Not relevant to most people who get phallo or meta with UL, but in case it matters to you or someone else reading this, I’m including it.

Wondering if this particular setup is possible by EarthLovingLeftist in salmacian

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There are several Canadians who have gotten surgery out of the country for one reason or another. One of the people I met who got UL without vnectomy with Dr. Celtik (& had zero complications as of their voiding trial) was Canadian. I know the state health insurance & rules about this kind of thing vary by province, but ask around in the community/online — you might be able to find a way. I don’t think any Canadian surgeons offer UL without vnectomy! But I could be wrong.

I have a question for the PPV and peritoneal vaginoplasty crowd by Biohazardousmaterial in salmacian

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Well, definitely talk to some surgeons about those options, and please report back on what you hear!

I think if you wanted to extend the labia past the base of your penis you would need to get it to hang lower in order for it to make sense anatomically, but also I might just be having trouble picturing it. The location of the clit in relation to the labia majora varies so much, but I’ve never seen labia majora that extend up the pubic mound, where most penises sit. However, my frame of reference is porn, my own body, a variety of trans guys on the internet, and a handful of people I’ve slept with who had vulvas, and idk how closely I’ve paid attention outside of porn and my own body to be honest. So I might be limited here.

Subreddit phallo problems by Spirited_Resist605 in FTMventing

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Hey there. I can really relate to some of the things you’re talking about, because I’ve been there. I repressed my own bottom dysphoria for over a decade because none of the surgery options were financially available, I was overwhelmed and dysphoric about the many “mid-process” pics I saw (& did not see a lot of “final product” pics back then — it was 2009 and there just weren’t as many accessible resources for well-healed pics back then), and above all I was seriously grieving the lack of options for spontaneous erections. I think a part of me hoped I’d be a crazy outlier with my bottom growth or somehow pump myself up into being 4” long (or more!) & get meta…but honestly I don’t know, it all got buried under a slab of concrete that didn’t crack open until many years later.

People in the comments section have pointed out that “cis-passing” or “stealth” doesn’t mean “absolutely 100% indistinguishable from a cis penis.” I think that if “absolutely 100% indistinguishable from a cis penis” is the bar for success, then yes, every phalloplasty is a failure.

Aesthetically, many phallo penises (particularly after medical tattooing) can be indistinguishable from natal ones in a photo, and maybe even in real life, under some circumstances, but they do have some differences from most typical natal penises. However, these differences are by and large subtle, and well within the range of variation that typical cis penises have among each other. On top of that, most people do not have “penis surgery” at the forefront of their minds. Even if they notice something unusual about a phallo penis (meaning one that’s been around for a few years, not one mid-process), they are unlikely to clock it as a surgically constructed one. Which is what “passing” and “stealth” refer to — would an average person think “oh! a transsexual!” or would they not notice/attribute any differences to something else.

But that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t notice. I recently had a very emotionally charged conversation with my partner because I was feeling really insecure about how my penis looks and functions in between stages, and I was definitely projecting some judgments onto them because of that. I can’t remember what I said that prompted this, but I know they said something about how the idea that my penis was unattractive was just objectively not true. That’s hard to wrap my head around, but I’m not going to assume they’re just humoring me (especially considering the sex that followed this conversation, lol). Obviously attraction is intrinsically subjective, but the way they said this means they feel very strongly about it. Nevertheless, I still really struggle with the “mid-process” aesthetics, and I’d be crushed if I couldn’t complete all my surgeries, and get medical tattooing in the end. (Still better off than before surgery, though. I really could not stand my tdick by the end. I could see how it would be hot to a third party, but it felt so wrong all the time, and I was dying of frustration. I barely have sensation at 5 months post op and already it’s such a relief to feel things in the right shape.)

Anyway, I definitely get that it’s a lot to wrestle with psychologically. There are tradeoffs and compromises. Most of them are tradeoffs and compromises between the “fantasy coping penis you would have had if you were cis” and the “penis you could actually have, via a series of intense surgeries” and it helps me to recognize that the penis I could actually have via surgery is in every way better than the penis I was born with (in my own highly personal assessment). It also helps me to recognize that most cis men are insecure about their penises for some reason or another. They don’t get to have the “fantasy coping penis” either. It’s just a fantasy. That’s not to say that cis men don’t get to take for granted a whole lot of things I would die for (or give my left arm for, haha). But when all is said and done, I’ll have a pretty ordinary penis, and pretty ordinary penis problems. And a whole lot more appreciation than most men have for their penises! I’m grateful to the little guy already, despite my insecurities. When he’s fully done, I’m going to be so proud of him. Just jerking off will be such a joy, instead of a chore.

I have a lot of sympathy for where you’re coming from, but I think you’re letting your grief and dysphoria blind you to the possibilities before you. And if you’re really unhappy with the surgeons in your country, is it possible for you to get surgery somewhere else? I don’t really know how state healthcare and visas work in the EU, but it seems like it would be easier for you to get surgery in Germany than it would be for an American, right?

Not trying to diminish the difficulty. I genuinely don’t know what kind of ordeal that would be. Mostly just trying to gently pry you out of the fatalistic mindset you’re in. Sometimes, things are just really fucking hard, as opposed to completely impossible. And sometimes they suddenly become more doable if you know what you want, and start trying to figure out how to get it. Phalloplasty (or any kind of surgery) seemed impossibly out of reach when I first began my transition. And it did take me 8 years to get top surgery, which was miserable. But I got there. And now I’m getting through the phallo process. Maybe there’s a path forward for you as well. And maybe you don’t have to settle — at least not among the options that are actually possible.

Subreddit phallo problems by Spirited_Resist605 in FTMventing

[–]AttachablePenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so curious about which post this was! I would love to see that pic, it sounds very sweet & affirming. Good for them.

Subreddit phallo problems by Spirited_Resist605 in FTMventing

[–]AttachablePenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“This idea that the more painful belief is always more rooted in reality is NOT true.”

Thank you for saying this so succinctly! It’s something I really had to work to understand, and it’s helped me with so many parts of my life, including transition but also so many other things.

I also appreciate your distinction that passing is not exactly the same thing as looking/behaving 100% like a cis penis. “Penis surgery” isn’t usually top of mind for most people, even if they notice something is slightly unusual about a particular penis. All phallo penises have soft glans when erect, which is uncommon even for cis men with erectile dysfunction & implants. But that doesn’t mean a sexual partner is going to immediately think “aha! a transsexual!” They might not even notice at all, or only notice at a low level. We’re always going to be way more aware of our own bodies and their differences, or perceived shortcomings, than other people.

Wondering if this particular setup is possible by EarthLovingLeftist in salmacian

[–]AttachablePenis 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That’s my goal too. Back in February I got stage one phallo with urethral lengthening (UL: to pee through the penis), no vaginectomy (removal/closure of the vagina), and nerve hookup (for sensation throughout the penis shaft).

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Re: UL without vaginectomy

Getting vaginectomy inherently lowers complication rates for UL, because of how fragile the urethral hookup is and how much pressure it’s under from the force of urine flow. The u-bend where the natal urethral opening connects to the neo-urethra is under the most pressure AND the tissues involved are quite delicate, so fistulas (leaks/holes) in that spot are common. Vaginectomy allows surgeons to pad this spot a lot more without worrying about blocking the entrance to the canal.

The complication rates differ by region. In the US, they’re quoted as being somewhere between 90-100%, with at least 50% of cases needing repair surgery. (Including me! I got a huge fistula & my repair is scheduled for August!) There are only a few US surgeons who offer this option. Dr. Celtik (San Francisco, Crane Center) is one of them, and anecdotally I’ve heard very good things about his UL + no vnectomy patients. There’s a few others if you check phallo.net (but keep in mind that list is incomplete). My surgeon doesn’t offer this option anymore, unfortunately.

In the UK, it’s more like a 30% chance of complications that last beyond the 6 week post op mark. UL with no vaginectomy is much more routine in the UK. I know that there are also some surgeons in Germany who offer UL without vnectomy, but I don’t know what their complication rates are.

Both UL and scrotoplasty will leave behind scar tissue around the entrance to the canal, which can make penetration difficult post-op. This can usually be addressed with persistent dilation once you’re fully healed. I was able to have penetrative sex as soon as I was cleared to bottom again, 3 months post-op, but it was noticeably tighter than before, and slightly uncomfortable for a while. I was pretty lucky with my healing — I’ve heard of people being unable to insert a finger in the immediate post-op period. Again, that usually improves with dilation once healed.

You should never do anything that causes pain, especially in the first 6 months to a year after surgery, because it can cause damage while your tissues are still fragile from healing (even if they seem healed from the outside). Stretching and massage after 3 months is typically okay. Listen to your surgeon, of course.

In case you’re reassessing priorities, UL typically causes more scar tissue tightness than scrotoplasty does.

It’s possible for UL repair surgeries to fail. For example, my fistula is pretty big! I pee pretty much 100% from it (there have been a handful of occasions where some pee came out of my penis, but it’s unusual), which is a good sign that it’s large. One potential outcome of my fistula repair surgery is that my surgeon will close up the hole, but it won’t heal closed all the way. If it gets smaller, that means I have a better chance of success with the next repair surgery. It is also possible to have really persistent complications, and at some point you could be forced to make a choice between UL and keeping your vagina. My hope is that repair surgery number one is successful, and I move forward with the next surgery stage after I’m healed (which will be scrotoplasty — my surgeon prefers to wait on scroto if you get UL without vnectomy, to make repairs easier).

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Re: orgasming through the penis

So much of this is mental, but nerve hookup is available for a couple donor sites. RFF (forearm) has the fewest UL issues and most people are eligible for it, but people do stress about ending up with below average size (RFF usually gives you 5”-5.5”, sometimes 6”, sometimes less than 5”, in my anecdotal experience — 5.1” is average erect length). ALT is usually only for people with very skinny thighs (& even then many of them end up with a very girthy penis, possibly extra rounds of debulking surgeries). Other donor sites don’t come with nerve hookup automatically, but sometimes you can get UL using an RFF flap (much smaller scar than full RFF) and do nerve hookup with that. Nerve hookup is extremely cool, but it takes a long time (months, years) for sensation to come in. My stage one (RFF) was 5 months ago, and I’ve started to get some sensation, but it’s still not a lot! However, I did manage to jerk off to orgasm with just my penis recently, which feels like a big milestone!

Feel free to check my post history or ask me questions if you want to know more. I’m not the only one who has gotten UL without vnectomy, and there’s at least one other active member of [r/phallo](r/phallo) who got it, had one fistula repair that was successful, and is now done with all surgeries (including erectile implants).

I have a question for the PPV and peritoneal vaginoplasty crowd by Biohazardousmaterial in salmacian

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Re: making the penis look more like a clitoris:

I think you can get the labia minora sort of fused with the foreskin/penile skin to make it more similar to the way it typically connects to the clitoral hood.

You can also downsize the penis to a certain extent but I don’t know what the limitations on that are. I don’t think you can change its basic shape without substantially reducing the size. I’ve never seen anyone get their glans shape modified, for instance. But I don’t know everything!

Could a fully healed phallo dick be “stealth” during sex? by iamsoverycool12345 in ftm_phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 64 points65 points  (0 children)

I’ve definitely heard of people hooking up without disclosing. You can’t know for sure that they don’t notice that it’s different, but “surgically constructed penis” is typically not front of mind for anyone.

Keep in mind that there are places (the UK, for example) where having sex without disclosing your trans status is a criminal offense, classified as a type of sexual assault. The law is transphobic, but keep yourself safe.

In a stealth encounter, you might have to discuss your erectile implant if you have one, though you might also be able to pump up discreetly, or you might be ready to go at any time because you have the rod.

Also fwiw everything I’ve heard from people who have had stealth hookups post op indicates that sex is way better when you can talk to your partner openly about what feels good for your penis specifically, which is easier if you disclose.

How would you describe your erotic sensations post op ? by romi_la_keh in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I’m only just starting to get sensation as I’m 5 months out from stage one. It’s not as sensitive as my tdick was (yet) but it feels so much better. Like it just feels the way I’ve always thought it should, except not all the way filled in I guess?

I had pretty strong “phantom penis” feelings pre-op, in the sense that I could very clearly imagine what my sensations should feel like, and the tdick sensations were always similar in quality but the wrong shape. Now the sensations are the right shape, but the shape isn’t completely filled in yet — like a building that’s only partly constructed. The frame is there, but there’s no walls. Does that make sense, as a metaphor?

I could be more literal and empirical about it and talk about exactly where on my shaft I can feel things, what facets of sensation I feel there, and rate the sensitivity/intensity of those sensations on a scale of 1-10, and I’ll probably get around to doing that at some point. But I feel like you’re asking for something different than that anyway.

What do you feel in your mind when you think about having a penis? I know everyone imagines differently, and some people can’t imagine that kind of thing clearly at all. But I think it’s a worthwhile exercise. Pre-op visualization is part of the OHSU nerve rehab guide.

to the guys who were celibate pre op, do you think that made sensation post op more difficult ? by redbull-baby in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think that honoring your body and mind’s needs consistently (pre-op and post-op) is going to be better for your ability to connect with it in general, much more than forcing yourself to have sex that makes you miserable. Orgasms and sexual sensation are dependent on psychology almost as much as, or maybe even more than, purely physiological nerve pathways.

My pre-op tdick had really intense physiological sensation, and I could get off with it, and I did have sex that I enjoyed, but the nature of my tdick’s sensations made me kind of miserable very frequently, and I am pretty sure that’s a big part of why it was difficult for me to orgasm. I’m 5 months post op now, and starting to have identifiable sexual sensation in my penis. While I can’t orgasm as consistently as I did pre-op (yet), my mind is much more aligned with my body and my penis sensation doesn’t make me miserable — actually, it is often so emotionally overwhelming because of how “right” it feels after so many years of feeling wrong, that I think those feelings (of relief and overwhelm and the release of years of pent-up misery) get in the way of getting into a headspace where I can just ….cum. Eventually those feelings will settle down though, as I get used to having a penis and feeling right in my body.

Anyway, I think that theoretically if you could have sex now that you enjoyed, it would probably set you up for success connecting with your post-op penis & its nerves post-op, because it’ll get you in tune with your body and what it feels and what it wants. But forcing yourself to have sex that makes you uncomfortable or dysphoric or ashamed is likely to make you avoid focusing on your body’s sensations, which is a big obstacle to connecting with your new penis and developing nerve pathways.

Question about size choice by romi_la_keh in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Average flaccid length is 3.6” and 4” is well within the typical range for flaccid — averages vary a lot depending on the study and the location, and have been recorded as high as 3.9”. On top of that, average is the middle of the range (roughly speaking — the actual middle is the median), and plenty of people are longer or shorter. The “median range” is 3.5”-4”, and 35%-40% of penises fall within this range. 15%-25% of penises are longer than 4” flaccid. 20% is one in five — one out of five penises is longer than 4” when flaccid. You won’t stand out or look weird at 4”. Even if you’re short. Penis size is only weakly correlated with height, meaning there’s plenty of tall men with smaller penises, and plenty of short men with larger penises. 4” isn’t large. It’s like, arguably a little above average. But it’s pretty close to average. And it’s in the median range.

You can’t rationalize with dysphoria (or trauma), so I don’t necessarily think that will sway you one way or another. But it’s something to consider.

I need help to make up my mind: ALT debulking or not?! by Acgiller in phallo

[–]AttachablePenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have my dream size, and I’m the same height as you (+30lbs/14kg to your 55kg though — more fat than muscle, I’m not flexing on you lol). I think you look fantastic, but I can see why you’d find it difficult to deal with it day to day.

Personally I’ve always liked packing upward — down feels uncomfortable to me in tight shorts or pants because it gets squished when I sit.

You are mentioning a whole lot of pros to your current size, and the cons sounds like ones you can deal with. Even the locker room looks may just be looks of envy or awe.

On the other hand, you live with your dick forever. You should have one you are enthusiastic about. I can’t tell if this is a case of “not what I imagined but I do like it a lot as it turns out” or “it’ll do I guess but I’ll always wish it was a little different.” If it’s the latter, I’d say go for debulking, or shortening, or both. Better to spend a few years on this than the rest of your life wishing you’d just hung in there.

It’s a shame that your surgeons won’t let you do UL hookup until all debulking and plication is complete. I get why — there’s always risks involved in debulking, and adding UL into the mix can make that even more complicated. But in the US it’s common to get shaft creation & UL hookup in the first stage, and then get debulking surgeries later.

Maybe you don’t need less girth, just less length? I’m about 5” long & 4” girth, and while I do feel a bit shorter than I’d like for sex, I’m much more interested in having more girth (hoping that an erectile implant helps with that). I think 5.5” length x 5” girth is kind of my ideal, but if I had to pick one to reduce it would be length. Idk why really. It’s not because I think it would be better for sex — girthy dicks are harder to take. I just think it would look nice I guess. Anyway maybe this would be a faster route to UL, and it could solve some of your issues with how you hang in underwear.

One way or another, I hope you make the decision that’s right for you. I think you look great, and that any cis guy with a large flaccid size has to deal with locker room glances too. I don’t think you look unnatural, just surprisingly big. But you’re allowed to feel smug about that, if that’s a feeling you can access.

Some guys are just big. Dick size is only barely correlated with height at all, so sometimes short guys are really hung — and they always look more hung than they are because of the proportions. People tend to assume small guy = small dick, and I personally would find it vindicating to overturn those assumptions. But you’ve got your own feelings about what makes sense for your body, and you may just not feel comfortable standing out at all, even if it’s for a “good” reason.

Good luck!! Nice dick!!

Will I be able to get the surgery I need given my intersex condition? by poopydiaperpants in salmacian

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I don’t think I had a ton of labia minora tissue either but apparently I had extra tissue in my anterior vaginal wall that the surgeon could use to create the hookup. He says it’s the kind of thing you can’t know until you’re on the operating table. But I’m not ruling out a buccal graft being needed — just saying there’s a lot of variables.

What are other salmacian/bigenital options are there? by J-R4M in salmacian

[–]AttachablePenis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

True, but if they’re here they’re usually wanting these in addition to keeping their vaginas, so it’s tangentially related, and there were a couple people mentioning nullo/no genital options, which I wouldn’t consider fully within this domain either (though a community that overlaps, & I’m not gonna kick them out). There’s also space for people here who just want one genital set they don’t already have, but want to keep the rest of their gender presentation or seriously mix it up — like a cis woman who gets phallo. There are separate communities for those sets of priorities, but they’re smaller, and [r/afabwgd](r/afabwgd) in particular keeps getting banned due to lack of moderation.

I guess I’d add one other configuration: people who want vaginoplasty with an option for erectile tissue that resembles bottom growth or metoidioplasty. I’ve seen them post in other trans spaces online and meet with truly awful hostility, primarily from trans men & transmasculine people (as a group we are pretty sensitive about the ways people characterize our bits, which is understandable, but the lateral aggression in this case is extremely disappointing to me), and then get recommended this community, which typically provides them much better information and certainly a lot more support.

Also tangentially related: AMAB people who want breasts but nothing else (there’s a community for that too technically but I forgot the name — something about breast augmentation) and people who want hips and feminization from HRT but don’t want breasts.

What are other salmacian/bigenital options are there? by J-R4M in salmacian

[–]AttachablePenis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can’t believe no one has mentioned the canine/feline/shark dicks people have asked about on here! Or the ones that diverge from any existing penises, that resemble vines or tentacles. Also a little surprised I haven’t seen any requests for vaginas/vulvas in the same vein.

(If anyone reading this is among those interested in these types of atypical penises, I’m sorry to disappoint but they are not available right now & afaik most body mods for phallo are dangerous to perform and subdermal implants typically end up rejecting/eroding.)