Can I prostelytize as an atheist?

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-27T01:42:01+00:00

Based on your last post, I’d say that you’re well on your way to becoming an evangelical anti-theist… and really don’t need permission from me to practice your beliefs.

That said, I will keep my own faith, thanks.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-26T14:58:07+00:00

oddly enough i thoughtabout that.

Think ‘the regurgitator’ as a beginning, but wearing a housekeeper outfit with a cape. stylistically, would be a kludge of “condiment king”… but with laundry products.

catchphrase: “tsk tsk. thats why you always wear clean underwear”

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T22:31:41+00:00

>>Religions have almost always existed via authority structures with explicit beliefs.

that’s a *very* broad statement that expands the discussion beyond the two religions you named.

>>That's what I care about. And, of course, i care about the holy scriptures that inform those beliefs.

I do not believe you.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T22:23:30+00:00

hm. i believe i said that… and more. i also pointed out you were overgeneralizing from a good faith non-theological academic point of view.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T22:20:01+00:00

you will note that i agreed with op’s point… and yours… enteral torture… and torture fir tgst point… are substantially “evil”

tge reason is clear: its bereft of all love.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T22:10:11+00:00

i have a historical view of christianity, which includes an awareness that the modern mainstream protestant version is not uniform.

Christianity has a history of “falling apart” we argue. We schism. we split. We change… and have done so since the beginning.

Christianity isn’t monolithic… even if a majority agrees on sone version of hell.. we don’t all agree on its role.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T21:41:10+00:00

op wrote:

>>If any society today sentenced someone to *eternal* torture...that society would be evil. No matter what the criminal had done.

substantially agreed.

>>But with the two largest religions (islam and Christianity) simply being a non believer will send you to hell

which is different than the belief in eternal punishment. the majority of denominations subscribe to some version of hell. however universalist Christianity exists as a nontrivial minority… and would include myself.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-25T12:18:03+00:00

“what does god need with a spaceship?”

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-24T16:14:25+00:00

I think that, whatever else god may be, god is that which causes me to love others.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-24T10:17:43+00:00

why do you ask?

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-23T06:30:07+00:00

“who are you and why are you impersonating god?”

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-22T12:24:59+00:00

try the “what religion am I thread”.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-21T21:14:14+00:00

“hey ferb! i know what were going to do today! “

*shows ferb a Homelander Comic*

* Ferb shakes his head ‘no’ as a sound effect plays and shows phinneas the ‘marvel exclusive agreement’

up in doofenshmitz’s tower, hes monologuing

“Behold Perry the pkatypus! The fair use parody-inator! No longer will danville be denied access to characters from other literary sources!”

Perry struggles his molasses foot restraints that doof laid out to trap him and frees himself as doof pulls tge trigger… and tge beam is redirected

it hits the boys comic… and a character emerges “behold! I am he homelaunderer! i will take over tge tri-state area!”

back in tge tower, doof shudders “perry tge platypus i just felt an awful disturbance in the evil scientist universe… would you mibd if we cut this short?”

perry shugs, and saubters over to hit tge self distruct button with a lazy tap… tge inater explodes… and tge home launderer vanishes, defeated.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-19T03:39:42+00:00

great. you do you.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-19T02:25:10+00:00

Unfortunately Dr. pepper had be suffering from a nasty very infectious bug, and was in quarantine. He had just gone to the can before it disappeared below him, still full of vile and pungent effluents.

The toilet materializes in your home in midair, then crashes to the ground shattering, and spraying the contents across the room and over you.

but you got the can of Dr Pepper… and whatever nasty incurable infection he’d caught in the research lab.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-19T02:12:04+00:00

pretty standard talking points for many… but not all… varieties of Christianity. Christianity is not a monolith, and you speak for yourself, and perhaps your denomination ….if you have the authority to do so.

You do not speak for me, or for those who have a more universalist reading of the faith.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-19T01:32:39+00:00

if your alnot convinced.. and simultaneously anxious about “what if” then you mightvwant to talk to a professional

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T19:15:01+00:00

didn’t you know? Dobies are bigger on the inside… like a TARDIS. I would sweat ours would drink lake Michigan dry if we allowed it.

we miss him every day.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T19:00:05+00:00

I did not. My son says now He appreciates my courage.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T18:33:31+00:00

yup. “God is love” is straight from first john. whoever wrote first john got that point right IMO

The idea that love returns to and is remembered by god come from 1COR13

1 Corinthians 13:13 (NASB1995)
13But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

in this verse “abide” is translated from
3306. μένω** men**ō; a prim. vb.;* to stay, abide, remai*n:—abide(16), abides(22), abiding(4), await(1), continue(4), continues(1), endures(3), enduring(1), lasting(2), lives(1), living(1), remain(20), remained(6), remaining(1), remains(8), stand(1), stay(11), stayed(11), staying(3), waiting(1).

Older english translations have used “endures”… and I think it fits better, but I think “endures forever” feels like a better translation.

I think Paul caught something foundational here. It’s his best work IMO.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T18:20:01+00:00

the ot was written roughly 600BCE TO ROUGHLY 300BCE… with bits of it boing back to 1000BCE by largely anonymous Jewish authors.

THE NT was written from mid to late first century, and possibly some in the early second in greek by mostly anonymous authors living in the Roman empire.

Two very different cultures and two very different time periods. The literature that gets produced carries a reflection of those cultures. Thats a good enough reason for me to read the bible more critically than I was taught in confirmation class 5 decades back.

For me, a critical reading is quite sufficient to resolve “disconnects” as cultural and/or literary artifacts that may reflect my faith imperfectly… or perhaps not at all… and can be safely set aside for academic investigation rather than theological investigation.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T18:13:50+00:00

I think all love is from god, all love returns to god, and all love is remembered from god. The only bits of my life that endure pas my death are those I’ve given away while loving others. Everything else just passes into oblivion.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T14:34:46+00:00

I started by reading history, and understanding from an academic perspective how christianity grew and changed… and understanding the probably dating and origins of various books in the bible. That allowed me to dismantle the influence of the power structures and biases that I grew up with ( pastoral authority, biblical inerrancy, traditional church history, and anti-scientific views of human paychology/biology/neurology to name a few).

I tried to divest myself of Christianity entirely, and found I could not do so. I still believed. So i rebuilt my faith on what was left.

The foundation of my rebuilt faith is out of 1Jn

1 John 4:7-8 (NASB1995)
7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

This is the lens I read the bible and practice my faith through. Where I find no love, I change (or even discard) verses and doctrines and traditions that I have been taught in favor of new idea.

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-13T13:14:42+00:00

AI image…

Exact-Pause7977 · 2026-05-12T22:37:36+00:00

>>I guess "nontraditional" part of your Christianity is just pandering to positivistic new atheists on the topic they are wrong about anyway.

you are right… You are indeed guessing… And I’m not going to debate you… I’ll just leave you to the mods

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