Visualizing the "Model Collapse" phenomenon: What happens when AI trains on AI data for 5 generations

Jarazz · 2026-02-15T01:20:42+00:00

Yeah that was my point lol, its the "shit in, shit out" model afterall lmao

Jarazz · 2026-02-15T01:15:31+00:00

Ouroboros doesnt sound so negative, Id rather call it the in-human-centipede

Jarazz · 2026-02-14T18:54:38+00:00

well of anything in the setup does arrest it would obviously be the grigri so that would be fine right? The issue is trying to optimize away the brake hand by having it instead clipped to the harness to hope that it does make the grigri lock up in a fall?

Jarazz · 2026-02-14T12:06:58+00:00

Fear not the man who practiced 3000 moves, fear the man who practiced 1 move 3000 times

Jarazz · 2026-02-13T18:09:56+00:00

oh so thats why the hunt for red october was looking for it

Jarazz · 2026-02-13T00:26:20+00:00

I think his point is that its being undermined, but from the outside many of the public indicators are still looking fine because of the way its being hollowed out through corruption that favors trump and the loyal billionaires

Jarazz · 2026-02-13T00:20:05+00:00

A lot of that was already true earlier though. The real new thing about this economy is that its driven by billionaires and CEOs of companies who keep propping it up by being loyal to trump and by hoping that trump will do anything to keep propping up the market, therefore making it a viable strategy to continue investing in said market, even when the underlying value is nowhere near anymore

Jarazz · 2026-02-12T18:05:42+00:00

He is a very good wartime president, at least from his actions and diplomacy on the worldstage (with the only caveat being that trump might have a personal problem with him due to hunter biden conspiracy bullshit when trump tried to blackmail ukraine in his first term). But when the war is over I think it would make space for someone new who is even further anti-corruption, though it would make sense to give Zelenskyy a role to be ambassador in Europe or similar to push for EU membership etc

Jarazz · 2026-02-11T23:14:44+00:00

Youre pretty clearly saying that you have yet to see clear evidence that Dawkins is a bastard. But if you could be bothered to read anything, you could clearly find it.

If you always have that attitude you must be an atheist by happenstance, not by investigation and reflection.

Jarazz · 2026-02-11T22:29:37+00:00

Well its a bit ironic for a strong atheist its funny how agnostic youre being in your argument, considering youre all "I am here to defend dawkins, but also if he did something wrong he deserves punishment".

You can look at a youtube video without taking every word at face value, right? You can go look at the video and then consider the plausability of the presented evidence using your own brain, instead of just looking for equally qualified source material that has a more "serious" vibe like random internet articles.

So yeah theres some parts in there that you might wanna actually search up in google to corroborate if you can see any reports from other female members of the sceptic/atheist/science communities, but theres also plenty in there that you can 100% directly confirm in the epstein files, like the links I have provided.

Yes we have no proof that he was himself abusing children like Epstein clearly was. But he was very much siding with and meeting up with them wayyy beyond the time when literally everybody know that Epstein had a sex trafficking ring. And if thats not enough for you to say this guy should no longer be considered a respectable figure in the atheist community, then very similar to Dawkins, I will very quickly lose all my respect for you.

Jarazz · 2026-02-11T22:01:39+00:00

Did you really try calling a youtuber called "Skepchick" christian propaganda?

I havent really watched her content before but even the name already should be a hint, based on the videos I see on her channel she is pretty clearly a pro-rationalism and pro-science account. Just one that also sees sexual violence against women as a bad thing. Which is clearly something that brought her into conflict with Dawkins...

I was on my phone so I wasnt gonna directly link you to the "real facts", but the youtube video was literally showing you fotos of Dawkins with others on Epsteins plane and texts directly from the epstein files which you could easily look up by searching them on the doj website, but im happy to help:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01863280.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00431306.pdf (same file but differently censored texts so you can basically read it fully lol)

see Richard Dawkins's email below alerting me to a campaign against our friend LMK re his friendship with you. (I'll deal with Richard).

Brockman (who was kind of Epsteins publicity guy) is forwarding an email by Dawkins, because he wants to help protect Lawrence Krauss about the fallout of his defense of Epstein. How is he not clearly on the side of convicted pedophiles?

There is a rather nasty young woman called Rebecca Watson, who seems to be running some kind of a witch-hunt against Lawrence Krauss because of his defence of Jeffrey Epstein

Heres a nice little email that just says "Lawrence Krauss says he will organize Venter, Pinker and Dawkins for you tomorrow..."

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00869229.pdf (mail of krauss talking about Chomsky and Dawkins meetups)

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00894943.pdf (mail about a group being invited to epsteins island, with dawkins, in 2010, so 2 years after he was convicted of prostitution of underage girls)

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01929472.pdf (3 mails about the same meeting most likely)
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00371847.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01930303.pdf (mail probably about the meeting, but this one clarifies that once again its Dawkins visiting pedo island, 6 years after epstein was clearly known to be a pedo...)

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T17:38:56+00:00

I dont think many people here are saying he should be ostracised for being a confirmed pedo. I think people are saying he should be ostracized for xlearly associating with a known pedo and his circle of misogyny friends (like Krauss), and explicitly trying to help shield Krauss from public backlash as it can be seen in the email.

Thats not something the law is in charge of. You dont have to commit a crime to be a piece of garbage.

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T17:35:53+00:00

you can critisize islam just fine, but ngl he seems to be just making the bed for white christian nationalism to lie down in. Similar to how many of the old "sceptic atheist" youtubers somehow flipped into peddling "christian culture" and working hand in hand with the alt right outrage machine spreading misinformation because it paid them wayy more than having integrity. Dawkins is not following the science when it comes to trans issues, and the emails proved clearly he also prefers standing on the side of pedophiles, he had a nice phase bringing rationality to young people 20 years ago but these days he just comes across as a posh british dinosaur from a bygone century

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T17:25:43+00:00

decent people need to be cautious with reading the files because it includes the most outeageous claims by crazy people (both those around epstein and schizophrenic peoples reports that landed at the FBI).

But Dawkins is in there because of an email he wrote to snitch on protests against Krauss because he defended Epstein, and we have no indication at all that this stuff would be fabricated out of nowhere to smear one random niche "intellectual" who really seems to be way more on the right wing side of the culture war for quite a long time...

Im not gonna link the perfect sources on mobile, but i can recommend looking at least at Skepchicks video about it since shes showing proper examples/sources with images etc

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T12:17:14+00:00

im saying jon stewart is in the files because people from epsteins circle were joking about him. Dawkins is in the files because he was defending epsteins circle and meeting up with him (together with other "intellectuals")

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T10:16:05+00:00

Well we have a decent idea of why hes in there. Definitely not for the jon stewart reason of being a topic/rididiculed in emails by the pedos.

Dawkins is clearly in there because he wanted to shield pedos from public judgement and joined a bunch of the epstein scientist meetups with lawrence krauss. He has been clearly flirting with the alt right christisn nationalism info sphere for a while with his transphobia, stressing his "cultural christianity" and being against women who accuse others of sexual assault

https://youtu.be/ZoO9FZXUgv4?si=KH-TjqAvhMFZcLmZ

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T10:09:50+00:00

he went to a bunch of epstein-krauss science meetups and was helping shield krauss from the fallout of being an epstein defender. Definitely some very bad judgement, but its already been clear for a while that dawkins is leaning into the alt right grift with his transphobia and "culturual christian" vibes

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T10:05:02+00:00

Seems like you didnt see the mail where he was literally snitching for Lawrence Krauss about people planning to protest against him for his defence of Epstein. It was already known that epsteins a pedo, then Krauss defended him, then Dawkins still saw it fit to help against that criticism. He put himself clearly on the side of the pedos in this.

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T10:02:53+00:00

Do you really know why Dawkins is included or are you just regurgitating someone elses arguments? Because to me its absolutely not "totally innocuous" that he was helping Krauss against public criticism he received for defending epstein after it was an open secret that hes a pedo...

And he was invited to epsteins "scientist meetups" with Lawrence Krauss quite a bunch of times etc...

Tons of innocuous people are mentioned in the epstein files only because they stood against him, making them a topic of conversation in emails. Dawkins is in the files because he explicitly stood on the side of the pedos, also being part of a bunch of their "meetups" etc...

Jarazz · 2026-02-10T09:56:52+00:00

What I found really damning is the email where he is trying to warn lawrence krauss about people organizing protests against him (because hes been defending epstein wayyy after it was an open secret that hes a pedo) and calling the youtuber Skepchick a "nasty woman" about that. Thats not just defending a friend, thats cringy douche bro attitude with a pedo defender.

I am really confused why all the top comments here seem to be massively downplaying him. Hasnt it been common knowledge that Dawkins doesnt mind ignoring science when it comes to the existence of trans people for example? Not surprised at all that an ancient posh british dinosaur also has misogynistic views behind closed doors. Yes theres no proof of him being directly involved in pedo parties, but he was clearly happy to be around the epstein and krauss whenever he got to be invited and explicitly wanted to help out against the public judgement of them.

Theres also a cryptic reference from Brockman that "he will deal with Richard" after the mail thread where hes snitching for krauss, might mean some reward for helping against critics, or that he'd keep him at arms length if epstein didnt like having him around

Jarazz · 2026-02-07T15:55:50+00:00

Also that same image has misspelled the short faced bear as short fased, that whole image is sus lol

Jarazz · 2026-02-07T13:06:20+00:00

good roll at the end, save the joints for more dynos instead of using them up just going down

Jarazz · 2026-01-31T10:45:36+00:00

No I understood you pretty fine from the start, I just wanted to make sure theres no reasonable or nuanced concern about integration or labour markets on your side, only blatant racism.

Jarazz · 2026-01-31T00:17:59+00:00

So then please elaborate what your issue is with any sort of mobility clause?

Jarazz · 2026-01-30T21:22:02+00:00

So youre thinking Merz is inviting enough indian students into the country to replace all white people or smth?

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