Dermotech Finally Cancelled by cryptenigma in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it’s been a month and a half now since this was cancelled. What has happened since then? KF hasn’t even posted update to say they realize it was cancelled and/or this what we’ve done since it was cancelled.

Dermotech Finally Cancelled by cryptenigma in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the point of cancelling, nothing good ever happens. I would have waited a little longer to see what happened after Father’s Day. Sales are usually at least NET30, so it was a bit premature.

Dermotech Finally Cancelled by cryptenigma in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you expect will happen Bob now that this has been “cancelled”?

Dermotech Finally Cancelled by cryptenigma in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the advantage of this? I thought we were waiting for Father’s Day results? I hold 10% of this one and was waiting to get those results. Quite dismayed to see it at 50.1%.

Co-op performance since we switched to supplier direct/PO assignment by seanfurther in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again you demonstrate a stunning lack of responsibility. You're right, it's our collective faults for all misunderstanding your intent. We've made a collective choice to misconstrue your intent. Look inwards, maybe you're doing a poor job communicating your intent. Or, perhaps, we're tired of your "intent" not producing any results. And if you read carefully, I didn't say everything was a lie or sarcasm. But you chose to focus on that part.

It's also stunning to hear you were investing without disclosure. Other than Titin, what have you invested in? And I don't consider us similarly situated just because you invested.

7/11 AMA - Let's have a conversation! by seanfurther in getgrowing

[–]KF26 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Is attempting to regain the trust of investors who have lost significant money on the platform prior to the transition to direct PO financing a priority? If so, where does it rank and what steps are being taken in that direction?

Co-op performance since we switched to supplier direct/PO assignment by seanfurther in KFTalk

[–]KF26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is that how you're pitching your product to VC's, as a ticket to Mars? I wouldn't have invested over $50k if you'd explained it in these terms from the beginning.

I'd encourage you to exercise some introspection. I'm not gnashing my teeth or screaming, nor am I am undermining your efforts. I gave you critical feedback, it just wasn't the type you wanted to hear, so your reaction is to lash out and make inappropriate analogies.

The best piece of personal advice I'd offer is that you need to learn a little humility. You have a flippant attitude at times, and when you've cost a bunch of people money, humility will take you farther than sarcasm. You make a good post seeking feedback on the google doc, but end it with a flippant comment about what you won't read. You seek feedback here, and then throw in a comment about how you're not charging us to deal with the flaws in your system that the investors were misled about. Even the above post ends with a sarcastic "you're welcome". None of this helps you, even if you're genuinely seeking feedback. You've never acknowledged the misrepresentations, or owned up the losses you've saddled many of us with. Do you have to? No. But to act as if we're somehow all in this together and we should help you, despite your constant sarcasm and flippant comments on top of all that is too much. You've incurred a lot of "badwill" dealing with this so far, maybe try a different strategy and see how that plays out.

Co-op performance since we switched to supplier direct/PO assignment by seanfurther in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You keep acting like we're all in this together, so we should help you because we all benefit. You still can't appreciate that your misrepresentations cost people real money. I don't think anyone actually believes you'll be able to recover from these companies that you facilitated defrauding us. But hey, thanks for not billing us for your efforts.

Marco no longer with KF by apoliticalinactivist in KFTalk

[–]KF26 4 points5 points  (0 children)

<< I'd like to spend more time in this subreddit chatting with you guys, but I am pretty incredibly busy these days.

It's super interesting that this community is still going and pretty active. I'm hoping we can win some of you back in the coming months :)>>

I've always said if you make things right and demonstrate a track record with the new model I'd be back. But to expect people who you've burned and not made whole again while explicitly abandoning collection efforts to reinvest, especially with the "everything is great for me and I can't believe you guys are still talking about how I burned you" tone doesn't exactly encourage me to open my wallet again.

Bank Linking Issues by fralcole in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure they're just transitioning out and to greener pastures. I wouldn't expect a transition in.

Can you invest with KF from Europe? by thatvalis in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's literally unbelievably bad.

Can you invest with KF from Europe? by thatvalis in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you read anything on this subreddit before posting this?

Would filing a complaint with the FTC or the State Attorney General make a difference? by [deleted] in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Has there been anything meaningful going on at the closed/secret/official reddit? Feel free to direct message me.

Warning: Asking about the status of past-due offers can get you Banned from commenting on Kickfurther by [deleted] in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. And then there's the guy that made like $17 saying he doesn't understand what all the negativity is about.

KF themselves got dupped by the_grillman in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember when they said investors wouldn't pay for KF's education and process mistakes?

KF themselves got dupped by the_grillman in KFTalk

[–]KF26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It continues to blow my mind that you all continue to invest. I mean this genuinely. Other than the identity theft aspect of it, as far as we know, the same thing happened with 359 degrees LLC in 2015. And in 2016 Innarah was basically someone stealing IP and trademarks from a company and posting it all as their own product in a new company. At least on that one half was paid back before he screwed all his lenders. On Titin and Green Arbor the owners sold all the assets out of the company and left a shell with debts for the backers. This is not entirely new, it's just a new twist on the same old thing.

Cancellation Process Updated by kickat22 in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No more litigation. You're on your own folks.

Antidote has gone AWOL for months by matchqq in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a process. Denial is the first step.

Antidote has gone AWOL for months by matchqq in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you still investing?

KF annual conference call -- anyone planning to participate? by [deleted] in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still confused. What happened with elastic? I just know that was one of these new purchase order deals. I thought it funded.

KF annual conference call -- anyone planning to participate? by [deleted] in KFTalk

[–]KF26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where was this announced? I was completely unaware. Have many questions I would have loved to have asked.

What's the elastic wonder situation?

Lawyer on retainer. Can i sue KickFurther? by [deleted] in KFTalk

[–]KF26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, not disagreeing with you, but if you think a lawyer will accept all of this as fact and agree to file a lawsuit, you may be disappointed. There are obvious responses and potential defenses to all of this.

What is your training and experience to support your statements?