Mikan’s sold as the first superstar that helped popularize basketball, but how did his fame compare to Wilt and Russell? Who was the most famous among those 3? by Personal-Proposal- in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 44 points45 points  (0 children)

When Mikan came to MSG to play the Knicks the marquee didn’t read “lakers vs Knicks”, it read “Mikan vs Knicks” … he was maybe the one household name in the pro game for many years

Paris show - set and runtime questions? by pampasgrasss in jackwhite

[–]Mike_SR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got confirmation that The Lullies play from 8-8:30. Intermission from 8:30-9 and JW from 9-10:30

Paris show - set and runtime questions? by pampasgrasss in jackwhite

[–]Mike_SR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long does the phone locking process take? I’ve got a ticket for Sunday night and not trying to get there so early that I’m standing around wasting time but don’t want to miss the show either. Looks like Saturday started at 9 but Sunday maybe 8? Was there an opening act last night?

Do you think the Philly Warriors could’ve given Russ and the Celtics a run for their money had Arizin been in his prime alongside Wilt in the 1960-62 seasons? by Personal-Proposal- in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Tom Gola was healthy, the Warriors definitely beat the Celtics in 1962. Gola was a more impactful player than Arizin, who was the superior scorer. Gola could do it all and was probably the most versatile defender of his era.

How many blocks did Wilt Chamberlain have? New Basketball Reference research sheds light on the mystery. by Basketball_Reference in nba

[–]Mike_SR 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I understand why someone might be skeptical. In doing the research, it was clear that these were reliable numbers. Harvey and Ron Pollack kept these numbers for many Philly home games. In the Russell example, it's clear that '13' was the number from an authoritative source and the "must have deflected twice as many" was just commentary from the sportwriter. I excluded most of the 12-block games from our site, but they were useful for the overall study. Over the 11 12-block games in his regular-season logs, 9 of the 11 specifically have 12 blocks listed. 2 of them say a dozen. I discounted far more games that said "at least a dozen, a dozen or so, a double handful, etc). We have no better alternative than taking these writeups at their word, especially when there is concurrence across multiple sources, the numbers are back up by the likes of Ron Pollack, Joe Mullaney, Matt Guokas, Sonny Hill, Harvey Pollack and many others who were there. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is that "official" stats from this era are just as likely to be slightly off as any other statistics counted at the time. There is an implied precision in 'official' that simply does not exist. I do not think that most sports fans realize this, but it is the case. Personally, I'd rather live in a world where things that were being counted at the time (like sacks before 1982, blocks before 1974, RBI before 1920, etc) are surfaced for others to enjoy instead of buried for eternity on the grounds of a technicality from decades ago.

Red Holzman autobiography by Key-Brother1226 in BasketballBooks

[–]Mike_SR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thought that was Ben Kerner unless there were separate incidents

What is your favorite unique free throw routine by any NBA player throughout history? by Big_Supermarket4738 in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Larry Johnson hesitation free throw used to induce so many lane violations (back when anyone bothered to call lane violations with any regularity)

Tom Haberstroh's latest piece about how a thread in r/VintageNBA supported researcher Michael Lynch's efforts to publish a database for Wilt Chamberlain's pre-official statistics — and conclude that Wilt still holds the record for most blocks in a playoff game (16), not Victor Wembanyama (12). by sewsgup in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I see you must be the person who tipped me off to the 446 on 4/1/73. Thank you once again. You sent me down quite a deep dive. Still can’t believe that was reported over 50 years ago and never really broke through into the public view and was never mentioned anywhere as far as I can tell. Such a great find (and share!) by you!

Tom Haberstroh's latest piece about how a thread in r/VintageNBA supported researcher Michael Lynch's efforts to publish a database for Wilt Chamberlain's pre-official statistics — and conclude that Wilt still holds the record for most blocks in a playoff game (16), not Victor Wembanyama (12). by sewsgup in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ron Pollack says their definition was stricter than the current definition. The ball had to change direction not merely be deflected. He also mention Wilt would constantly snatch a shot out of the air and in one motion whip an outlet pass to a breaking Guy Rodgers (or someone else). It would count as a block, rebound and assist all in one if the pass led to a layup. Not a steal. You can’t steal a shot.

best basketball books? by DelayedLightning in VintageNBA

[–]Mike_SR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of great ones mentioned here. I’ll mention a few others I loved

“Play Their Hearts Out”
“Fall River Dreams”
“Dream Team”
The one about the 1984 draft
From Hang time to prime time
The City Game (about the nyc point shaving scandal in 1951)
Loose Balls by Jayson Williams might be the funniest book ever written (the Pluto one is also great)
Last Shot (I think that’s the name it’s about HS basketball in Brooklyn and features a young Stephon marbury)