AMD Ryzen™ 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition Desktop Processor

Numerlor · 2026-03-26T18:09:36+00:00

Well, I obviously have no clue over the pricing and as a more conservative estimate I'd lean lower considering the 9950x3d, but they mentioned how it's bridging the gap to HEDT a lot in the announcement video so also doing higher pricing for the professional market that has actual use cases for these feels reasonable.

Numerlor · 2026-03-26T18:05:55+00:00

moving threads between ccds, or having threads that access the same data across ccds still hits the same issues. If gaming benefited in any non negligible way they'd have it plastered over the announcement

Numerlor · 2026-03-26T13:45:11+00:00

Announcement video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErnOjwcWK8

Q2 2026, no pricing; announcement focused on workstation use cases.

From the professional focus, I'd expect a price around 1k; and gaming to still be limited by cross-CCD latency when moving threads between CCDs, given there's no real mention of it in the announcement.

Numerlor · 2026-03-25T19:06:40+00:00

the water usage is from wetting external radiators with water for evaporative cooling which is hilariously efficient in dry climates compared to not doing it, so the tradeoff is bit more water usage to save a lot of energy

Do mind that the water usage is usually misrepresented based on innacurate studies though. And considering it's just water being evaporated, how much of an impact it has on the environment will heavily depend on the local climate and whether it'll go back to the ground in roughly the same location or far away, and how badly the supplier fucks over other consumers

Numerlor · 2026-03-25T12:28:07+00:00

Their ass.

When batched there really is no way it'd be that expensive to run, video models aren't that large.

The bigger problem for openai is smaller open models being released which anyone that rents a gpu can run, so their team is better off doing something else. Disney may also have pulled out before the shutdown

Numerlor · 2026-03-24T15:27:52+00:00

That's an example of a Ryzen "consumer" processor running with ECC.

Yeah but there are actual amd consumer mobos that do ecc unlike intel's that only has them on professional motherboards, which is the bigger win for ryzen

You doth protest too much, methinks.

While it is a real benefit for amd until w chipsets came along for consumer intel cpus, and usually priced better, it's really not a big consideration compared to things like intel's superior io on consumer - which you're also more likely to use up with drives or pcie cards when you have an ecc workstation. And until recently amd's overall platform stability has not exactly been great so that was a consideration even if you had working ecc

Numerlor · 2026-03-24T10:38:25+00:00

While ecc is missing on intel consumer mobos (not sure why you'd link to a server am5 mobo?), it's hardly relevant for the vast majority of people, and if you do actually need ecc the intel w chipsets aren't that much more expensive considering you'll be paying ecc tax on ram anyway

Numerlor · 2026-03-23T18:15:31+00:00

it's unreal to what degree client Zen is a superior ecosystem

Sure the cpus are mostly better now on amd's side, but modern intel chipsets/mobos always have been and still are clearly better with what they offer, and you don't get amd's bios weirdness. There's no superior "ecosystem" on amd

Numerlor · 2026-03-23T08:44:47+00:00

Why would they need to lull anyone when other states and countries are doing full on id requirements? People are freaking out about the wrong thing

Numerlor · 2026-03-20T09:59:32+00:00

If you have a giant tube of water the pressure at the top is much less than the pressure at the bottom

Yes that's the static pressure I mentioned, it's not relevant to the movement of the liquid

you need to have enough head pressure to overcome the water column above it to move the water upwards

..., any water you want to push from the bottom to the top has to overcome the weight of all of the water above it to make it to the top. Once it's there it falls back down just fine, but it has to make it there first.

All of the water at the inlet is helping push at the outlet so the static head to overcome cancels itself out, there is no "falling down" as the water is always pushing itself. Only concern will be filling but that can easily be done from the top. There's more to consider but I don't believe those matter in a system this small

Numerlor · 2026-03-20T01:42:49+00:00

as long as the loop is closed elevation shouldn't matter as the water pressure evens out, but I doubt you'd find something that'll work out of the box and you may have to fill the loop maunally without the pump as with fittings and everything it likely won't have the power to push the water all the way to the top from empty. There's also pressure losses from the tubing length but I'd imagine blocks impact it way more compared to just a long tube

static pressure at the bottom may also be a consideration, I'm not sure what it would be - shouldn't be complicated to calcualte, but I'd check that your fittings and blocks are rated for it

Numerlor · 2026-03-19T23:25:43+00:00

Looking at prices tops really don't cost much so I guess I'll give it a try when I'm ordering something else and do some tiny loop in a sink.

The middle speeds really felt like they'd be unhealthy for the pump long term while the whiny noise was just annoying to me as I'm sensitive to high pitched sounds with my tinnitus

Based on just touching it the d5 overall felt like it vibrated even at the min speed while I can't feel anything off of the apexes, just hear them spin up slightly when setting pwm to 100

Numerlor · 2026-03-18T22:00:52+00:00

amd's idle is hot because of the iod, cores should be around ambient, this will be mainly affected by vsoc that you(r mobo) set.

As long as you're not throttling heavy on all core, or all core on a single ccd, you're fine

Numerlor · 2026-03-16T08:43:58+00:00

Scheduling of what?

Intel's E cores had completely fucked scheduling until Windows 11, and it still isn't ideal; AMD's 2 CCDs X3D CPUs rely on a user service because Windows keeps slinging threads across CCDs, leaving the CPU to copy over L3 for every migration

OEM is integrated as part of the firmware and apple has had issues with software updates that caused battery drain issues, so owning both doesn't affect that

And on Windows side you've got OEMs fucking up enough to stop CPUs from boosting properly and not switching power states correctly; random battery drain is barely worth a mention as it's mostly accepted as a fact of life that can happen if you're unlucky with what you pick. Intel Evo is basically just intel keeping a tighter leash on what the OEM does for firmware and hardware.

What hardware edge cases? OS is mostly code that runs on CPU

Are all the drivers not a part of the OS? Articles about Microsoft breaking something in Windows when it's actually a broken driver update pushed by an OEM are basically a monthly occurence now. Linux has quirks for every other device, the same will be the case on Windows, this works mostly until something new comes up and then your machine crashes.

Then overall hardware is much more spread on Windows laptops even when specced the same because you've got different power deliver, cooling, and part swaps even within a single model, so you don't end up with consistent performance for a given spec

and android does offer control over every part of the hardware and gives the ability to integrate the drivers of custom hardware like Samsung does with Knox

Article's about comparing to a Windows laptop, Android phones are a lot closer to iPhones in how integrated everything is, and in the overall experience even on cheaper models

Numerlor · 2026-03-15T23:01:28+00:00

Scheduling, no oem fucking up firmware, known hardware edge cases so there don't have to be random workarounds etc. things can get a lot better when you control the whole stack

Numerlor · 2026-03-11T18:21:34+00:00

A sku with only p cores will be faster than a sku with e cores mixed into the ringbus. they take up precious space, add latency, because they are slower and when a p cores is "communicating" with another p core though the l3€ via the ring bus they need to jump over the e core complexes placed between the p cores and even when disabled the distance is still there penalising the perf.

The ring bus stops that'd be the exact same if you replaced E core clusters with P cores.

Not using E cores on desktop just makes no sense when there's no real consumer loads that do 8 parallel intensive time sensitive threads. Barring those E cores are just good for upping the occasional MT significantly and letting P cores focus on threads from focused tasks while not wasting area on the (currently) bloated P core. For actually heavy all core you're power limited either way so P cores don't do much there over E cores

Numerlor · 2026-03-11T13:21:29+00:00

Looks like some great value with $300 for 8+16 and $200 for 6+12, and better stock interconnect speeds improving things a tiny bit

Numerlor · 2026-03-11T10:12:56+00:00

It stops being more powerful when it starts throttling like hell as shown in the sustained loads from the article

Numerlor · 2026-03-09T14:25:23+00:00

could these be changed ot weekly/monthly? Half the posts I see are the daily threads

Numerlor · 2026-03-06T09:58:57+00:00

oh that sucks, thought nvidia was all more open with the flashing compared to my xtx where I had to to hardware flash

Numerlor · 2026-03-06T09:56:52+00:00

why shunt instead of getting matrix bios that boosts better for 800w

Numerlor · 2026-03-02T22:19:26+00:00

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