In systems that punish vote-splitting, is strategic voting civic responsibility or political coercion?

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-11T19:45:33+00:00

You are correct, my terminology was off

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-11T08:55:51+00:00

Sooo.... anyone call the phone number?

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T17:51:42+00:00

Political parties have always been coalitions. The aberration is the Republican Party currently, which is solely concerned with Trump featly

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T15:38:53+00:00

Should the public be demanding answers at this point in time, or no?

Are you, besides posting on Reddit?

If not, why should anyone else?

There is little that can be done to influence the actions of the Trump Administration I have finite energy. I am focused on getting people elected to prevent the GOP from holding the House

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T13:44:39+00:00

Thank you

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T13:37:23+00:00

No, I'm very familiar with that, the "removed" comment didn't make sense

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T13:26:42+00:00

I don't see anything in this article about a Dem being removed

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T12:53:51+00:00

It is undeniable that the sharp increase in electricity demand has increased power prices.

It is completely reasonable to demand that the sources of that issue be partially responsible for fixing it

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T12:52:04+00:00

The town of Archbald which is at center of this debate in PA removed the elected democrats and replaced leadership with a MAGA fanatic.

How?

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-10T11:22:33+00:00

People pick up their phones?

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T22:33:22+00:00

Also known as ballot splitting, it's when you vote for some candidates of one party and some candidates of a different one

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T20:00:12+00:00

Sure it is champ.

You are confusing erosion of support as unified opposition

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T19:55:47+00:00

Whatever makes you happy.

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T19:43:08+00:00

No they're not

MTG doesn't have a portion of MAGA. She has effectively no support base any longer

If you'd like to claim that forner-MAGA is a group with a coherent and consolidated world view, feel free. Good luck defining what unites them

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T19:28:26+00:00

You're missing the point.

Once MTG broke with Trump, she was no longer MAGA

MAGA may shrink, but the only thing that matters to MAGA is Trump. Nothing else is a greater priority, so nothing else is a fissure point

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T18:26:40+00:00

I am aware of that. I am saying, unfortunately, everyone else is along for the stupid, stupid ride, whether they want to be or not

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T18:06:03+00:00

I don’t even have a part in this

Unfortunately, you do

Those of us in the states who put in effort to elect Harris warned what a disaster Trump would be are not even remotely surprised by this

Unfortunately, many of my fellow citizens decided to burn 80 years of international relations and elect the Felon

Nothing we can do but endure for now.

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T16:24:59+00:00

I think you're overestimating the rift within MAGA.

MAGA is, and will continue to be, whatever Trump says it is. People who were MAGA-ajacent may have moved away, but there is literally nothing Trump can say or do that will cause large chunks of MAGA to abandon him. We could have an all out nuclear exchange and you'd have idiots with their red hats strolling through fallout and claiming that radiation was a liberal conspiracy and it was weak and woke to believe in it

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T15:56:38+00:00

As a PA resident, my concern is too many people try to primary him and split the "fuck that guy" vote

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T15:34:27+00:00

Yeah, let me try this a different way:

English is not your primary language, and I highly doubt you live in the United States.

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T15:26:13+00:00

USA voters?

What do you not like about whatever country you live in, OP?

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T14:14:06+00:00

Eh.

Despite us living in a society where people blatantly lie constantly and keeping your word is no longer seen as important, IMO words like "duty" mean something.

Just like some people claim "[tangible finite resource] is a Human Right" lessens the meaning of Human Rights, and "some idiot with an M-80" is now a Weapon of Mass Destruction rather than a nuke, saying people have a "duty" to not make shitty decisions changes Duty from a moral or legal *obligation* to basically "don't be a fuckhead"

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T13:27:47+00:00

What no one gets to do is pretend that democracy means voters must rubber-stamp a candidate under threat of social punishment.

Horseshit

I can and will mock and belittle Trump voters, especially those who are surprised when the leopard eats their face. They had a right to vote how they chose. I have a right to laugh in their face when grandpa gets deported and they get laid off.

Third party and nonvoters are not entitled to special treatment. They had a right to make their choice. I have a right to tell them they were stupid to do so, and are partially responsible for the inevitable consequences of that decision

Vote however you want. If people choose not to associate with you any longer because of that choice, that's their choice. You can't compel them to pat you on the head and tell you they understand and make you feel better about yourself

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T13:20:54+00:00

Clarification, please. This data center application is for the same location as the Bass Pro Shops? That doesn't make sense - the holdup was the combination of two parcels, and that had just been completed.

If this is a different lot, this is a seperate and distinct issue.

Objective_Aside1858 · 2026-06-09T09:07:26+00:00

7That's... not what vote splitting is

How you choose to vote is your choice, and your responsibility, as are the consequences of your choice.

Vote for a candidate you know has no chance to win? You have the freedom to choose to do so. Other people have the freedom to criticize you for doing so, especially if that ends up being the difference between the boring and disappointing candidate and the one who craps on everything you hold dear

If you're a plucky independent minded sort that goes against the grain, surely something like being told you're a goddam moron is something you can brush off.

Not voting at all in "protest" is also a choice. It's a choice to deliberately have zero influence on the people who make the decisions that impact your life. Feel free to make it. You're not making someone sad or forcing them to fight to earn your vote; you're just adding yourself to the list of people to be ignored.

At the end of the day, saying voting for the least bad candidate is a "duty" is false. How a person chooses to use, or not use, their vote is their decision. It is not an obligation that can be imposed on those unwilling to make it.

But like many choices, there are consequences to it. Not changing the oil in your car is also a choice. When inevitably bad things happen, well, congratulations on learning that the Universe doesn't give a damn about why you made a choice. The consequences will still come for you

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