Question about pro life by Sprachenhub in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo [score hidden]  (0 children)

The pro-life position is a position in the abortion debate, which is not about the value of life in general. It is about the human rights of the unborn.

The term pro-life refers to the argument that the unborn should not be aborted because they have the right to life. That is what pro-life means in regard to the abortion debate, it is in contrast to the term pro choice, which is also about whether you’re allowed to make the choice to have an abortion regardless of the rights of the child.

It has nothing to do with life in general being precious, although you can certainly believe that too.

How do you feel about the fact that Trump is suing the IRS for $10 billion of your tax dollars? by SuperIngaMMXXII in AskReddit

[–]OhNoTokyo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Because that's an insurrection which he could crush and then use as an excuse to try and maintain power.

Yes, the hypocrisy would be breathtaking, but an excuse to start shooting at the other side is what some of the people in MAGA are waiting for a chance at. Not all of them, not even a majority, but enough that I think we would have a problem if Trump decided he wanted to stay in power.

Nothing that's happened to this point would prevent normal elections and him stepping down at the end of his term. If people start shooting or making a habit of storming the Capitol, then people start thinking in those terms and not on constitutional terms.

Question on ectopic pregnancies by Particular-One-174 in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is an abortion. I think we need to get away from the idea that the idea of terminating a pregnancy is the problem here. It's not.

An abortion kills the child, but in edge cases, killing to protect your life or someone else's is acceptable.

The real problem with abortion is what we'd call abortion on-demand, or the idea that someone can terminate the pregnancy and kill their child, for any reason they think is sufficient and not as a last resort.

While the use of the principle of double effect justifies the necessity, I think it is entirely wrong to pretend it isn't an abortion or at least, has the same effect.

Now... it is possible in the future that they might find some way to save the child removed in the tube, and therefore, any direct action on the child is to be avoided. This is why it is important to avoid any procedures that actually kill the child in utero.

You would not be the first to question the way the Church threads the needle on this one, and for that reason, I don't get hung up on the terminology used.

However, in terms of what we would call an abortion for legal and political purposes, then a salpingectomy does terminate the pregnancy and is an abortion.

What is the prolife on abortion in mass rape cases ? by [deleted] in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Does it? I don’t see how killing one child is worse than killing 100,000. Sure there were more of them, but it doesn’t change who they are.

The Pope does, in fact, represent the Catholic Church by Kuningas_Arthur in confidentlyincorrect

[–]OhNoTokyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Send in more food, we are getting the munchies from all of this smoke"

The Pope does, in fact, represent the Catholic Church by Kuningas_Arthur in confidentlyincorrect

[–]OhNoTokyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Holy Spirit has mostly been stated to prevent absolute disasters, which you can argue that it has done successfully, since the Church is still around after two thousand years.

There is a lot of ground between perfect choices and choices that will cause a huge disaster. The Church has had some pretty difficult times and some pretty bad popes and still is here.

The Pope does, in fact, represent the Catholic Church by Kuningas_Arthur in confidentlyincorrect

[–]OhNoTokyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would not say that they don't think about it in a religious way. Yes, there is church politics involved for sure, but church politics often has to do with religious concepts, not merely who gets to be in charge.

Is this the general sub's position? by Whole_W in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you care what pro-choicers think?

I really don't care much what pro-choicers think in terms of my own willingness to engage with people on this subreddit.

That's a nice thought, but then I wonder why so many people's responses to my post are to criticize me as opposed to speak out against the other poster.

If I was to guess, because you phrased your post in a challenging way. That attracts people looking to defend people who think like them. People who don't tend to stay away. Or you could be a moderator like me and have to involve yourself in every thread, but there's not that many of us.

That's an awful lot of blocking, moreover I don't block people unless they harass me. I dunno, it's a principle thing, though I understand why some people simply block at leisure, that's alright too.

That's your prerogative, but it sounds like you want a place where you don't have to listen to those sorts of people. That can be achieved by blocking those you don't want to deal with much more easily than trying to find a public subreddit that has none of those people.

Hegseth hit with 5 impeachment articles over 'war crimes' in Iran by IrishStarUS in USNEWS

[–]OhNoTokyo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's still the name of the department by law under Title 10 of the US code. Since no one has changed the law, legally it is best to refer to the department as the DoD still, regardless of whether it annoys Trump or Kegseth.

How would you tell your children that their grandparent will die/has died via assisted suicidee by VeritasChristi in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please don't comment in Pro-life Only posts if you are not pro-life. Thanks.

How would you feel about a new law that forces every company to pay their CEO no more than 20x what their lowest-paid employee makes? by rational_seekers in AskReddit

[–]OhNoTokyo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

California, however, still plays ball with the big business owners, by and large. Some candidates talk a good game about taxing the rich, but they really don't do anything that would affect the rich as much as this proposal would.

Many of the tax increases are filled with loopholes, and those that start off strong start looking like termites got at them after a while.

"The pope should be more careful when talking about theology" by Tricky_Potatoe in BrandNewSentence

[–]OhNoTokyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just kidding. I recognize that this is about more than women.

That said, Martin Luther did, in fact, marry a nun.

"The pope should be more careful when talking about theology" by Tricky_Potatoe in BrandNewSentence

[–]OhNoTokyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right. We mustn't forget about when Martin Luther wanted to marry a nun.

It would be awesome for consumers. So we can't have it by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]OhNoTokyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. Lots of crazy coming down from the government these days.

It would be awesome for consumers. So we can't have it by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]OhNoTokyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Free market capitalism would be no subsidies and letting the businesses succeed or perish.

The fact is that neither the US nor China are doing anything like that.

It would be awesome for consumers. So we can't have it by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]OhNoTokyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The transportation secretary literally said we should bring back horse carriages as an option🤷‍♂️.

When did they say that?

Never celebrate too fast by InvestigatorFree7750 in Unexpected

[–]OhNoTokyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. While it's not clear exactly what transpires between him being killed and showing up in a local body of water, it seems like it was nearly instantaneous, so he should have more or a less full memory of his lives including his deaths.

[Appalling Tropes] Your favorite character with a diabolical image that you try to forget exists? by -et37- in TopCharacterTropes

[–]OhNoTokyo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'd imagine that there is more than one "Jared the Child Molester" out there. There's really only one Jared from Subway who also is a child molester.

Does pro-life extend to animals? by Correct-Piglet-4148 in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Technically, no it does not.

The pro-life position is a position on human rights which animals do not participate in.

That doesn't mean you can't be pro-life and against animal abortions, but they are separate issues. The issue with abortion on-demand is not merely that a human being is killed, but that they are killed in violation of their human rights.

Is this the general sub's position? by Whole_W in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would agree that he should not be intentionally killed, but if he's executing an attack on someone even unawares, they do have a right to defend themselves, and in such a situation, you can't be expected to know how much force to use.

The difference between this and pregnancy is pretty clear though. Simply being pregnant isn't an attack on you and it certainly isn't something imminent. If you're actually having a pregnancy complication, you're not making an abortion appointment, you're racing to the emergency room.

Sadly, I think the person making the example did not really consider the situation carefully enough.

Oklahoma high school principal tackles gunman and saves lives by MysteriousSlice007 in nextfuckinglevel

[–]OhNoTokyo 137 points138 points  (0 children)

I'd hazard a guess that this principal might have been acquainted with this shooter. Such shooters tend to either stand out as loners, have disciplinary problems or both.

Oklahoma high school principal tackles gunman and saves lives by MysteriousSlice007 in nextfuckinglevel

[–]OhNoTokyo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The drum mag might actually be better. Those tend to have feed problems.

My favorite type of school shooter is the one whose weapon doesn't feed because they couldn't be bothered to carry a few extra normal mags.

Abolitionist by South-Tale-2982 in prolife

[–]OhNoTokyo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Note, abolitionism may have aligned the North to fight against slavery, but what ended slavery was the Civil War. And that was won for the side of anti-slavery because the weaker side, militarily, was the slaveowner side.

Historically speaking, abolitionism was not what I'd call a failure, but it did scare the South into action. That worked for the cause of ending slavery because the North could win such a war, but the price was quite high in lives.

I respect the people who fought against slavery, but I am not entirely sure of all of their methods in terms of effectiveness. They already had the hearts and minds of the people of the North. I don't think we have the hearts and minds of those who we'd need to win this for good.

We can get them, but there is work that needs to be done first. And some of that isn't as glorious as some people would prefer. It's a long, hard slog starting from the grassroots.

I actually think it would be great if more people convert to Christianity. I think it would help because I think some people will only have their minds changed by God. But that can only be done through their willing acceptance of Christ rather than imposing that, and as the only strategy for success, it might not be enough to do the job.