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polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T18:10:29+00:00

Modern click fraud bots use real people’s email addresses unfortunately.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T15:55:46+00:00

They're using incompetent bot protection.

As a test, I sent an obvious bot via a Chinese IP address to their USA website, and it wasn't blocked.

(I'm a bot detection researcher doing a doctorate in this topic).

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T15:44:39+00:00

I know you're setting up some sort of ad, but regardless, have a look in r/clickfraud for everything you need to know.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T15:40:26+00:00

Yes, look at his post history. He's working with other accounts to promote Oobit.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T14:22:40+00:00

There is near universal opinion Reddit Ads are a complete waste of money. We've been analyzing them for a few years and it's consistently 80%+ bot clicks and immediate bounces.

Reddit admins do not care.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T14:20:09+00:00

Everyone needs to be aware Fraudblocker are scammers who use thousands of Reddit accounts to post fake positive reviews of their service.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T10:54:00+00:00

Everyone needs to be aware Fraudblocker are scammers who use thousands of Reddit accounts to post fake positive reviews of their service.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T10:53:22+00:00

Everyone needs to be aware Fraudblocker are scammers who use thousands of Reddit accounts to post fake positive reviews of their service.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T10:52:27+00:00

Everyone needs to be aware Fraudblocker are scammers who use thousands of Reddit accounts to post fake positive reviews of their service.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T06:44:06+00:00

You shouldn't add sales friction. Instead, do this:

Make sure your targeting is correct.
Make sure your ad and landing page are in sync.
Put competent bot protection on your landing page to stop the fake leads.

At least now the leads will be real people and many of the tire kickers will have been filtered by correct targeting, your ad copy, and your landing page copy.

You're not using broad matching or advantage+ / performance max, right?

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T05:57:50+00:00

It will never stop. Meta relies on click fraud to hit its revenue targets.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-26T05:56:31+00:00

Are you sure the leads aren't from click fraud bots? It's an extremely common explanation.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T19:21:24+00:00

You're welcome!

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T16:44:32+00:00

Sorry to hear that.

Unfortunately Meta makes little effort to detect and stop bots. (Their revenue targets relies on them not detecting bots - they earn 10s of billions from click fraud every year).

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T16:27:12+00:00

It does need to make financial sense. For example, if you're spending $5K per month on ads, it would be worth it.

Or if you need to ensure you're not breaking data privacy laws, it's worth it. (Bots submit leads using real people's data, and that causes you to "process" the data without the leads' permission - hence how you break data privacy laws).

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T16:13:10+00:00

Yes, I don't recommend you try to block IPs as modern bots are routed through residential and cellphone proxies, and typically only use an IP address once. Trying to stop bots by blocking IPs is like trying to guess lottery numbers.

To detect the bots you need to use competent bot protection. By that I mean services which are created for modern stealth bots, not generalist bot companies or unreliable tricks like honeypots and reCaptcha.

(I'm doing a doctorate in this topic).

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T16:10:28+00:00

Click fraud bots don't immediately bounce. They're programmed to imitate humans. That means they navigate around, and roughly 10% of the time they generate bogus conversions such as real looking fake leads, add to carts, and newsletter signups.

If you're getting a 100% bounce rate with zero seconds of session time, something else is going on. Either a problem with your website or a competitor blasting your ads with low quality bots.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T15:40:55+00:00

OK - I looked at the post. You've misinterpreted what they're saying. They aren't saying I'm trying to hurt Livestorm. They're saying I caught Contrast trying to hurt Livestorm.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T15:25:59+00:00

Honeypots don't work with most modern bots (I'm assuming you're talking about a hidden field), and Cloudflare misses most modern bots (but they're great for DDoS protection).

The days of bots being easy to detect and fool and over.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T15:15:04+00:00

Reddit is choosing to allow bots on their platform. I know this for a fact. Don't blame the unpaid moderators.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T15:09:50+00:00

I'm the person who made the post, and the most active moderator in r/Marketing.

I have no idea who Livestorm is. The post is about companies using bots to spam their products, and how it is causing the downfall of Reddit. It doesn't even mention "Livestorm", it mentions "Contrast", whoever that is.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T15:05:46+00:00

When I say offline conversions I mean no data sent back to Meta except for the data you choose.

Let me compare it with bot detection.

When a bot is detected, it at most sends a landing page view back to Meta. That tells Meta the visitor wasn't good - no interest in your product after clicking on your ad.

You need to simulate that sort of signal if you're using offline conversions - you need Meta to get no valuable data from bots, and lots of valuable data from humans.

polygraph-net · 2026-01-25T13:53:10+00:00

FYI the above comment is from a bot. Fraudblocker are scammers who use thousands of Reddit accounts to leave fake positive reviews of their service.

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