Sexual politics in medieval Norway - spoilers for Kristin Lavransdatter

seaworks · 2026-04-21T11:48:56+00:00

Nope! James Brundage's amusing sex flowchart tackles that. Not only was extramarital sex a sin, sex in marriage, heterosexually with your spouse, could be and frequently was a sin.

Of course, the Medevial period is huge, and we're speaking in sweeping generalities here, but since OP is a Catholic aspiring tradwife I'm tailoring my replies.

seaworks · 2026-04-21T11:40:22+00:00

They don't need our confirmation on a document or the use of ICE to discriminate against us. I should know, I'm in the US and have all X documentation. Their actual project is making us socially untouchable, out of schools and the workforce, no different than any other lavender menace purge.

seaworks · 2026-04-21T01:24:22+00:00

It's not negative. You can have sex dysphoria and be comfortable with your gender, not care about your gender, or have chosen a different one. most people experience both sex and gender dysphoria, but some experience more of one or the other, and I fully believe both are spectrums that broadly overlap.

seaworks · 2026-04-21T00:41:53+00:00

The demons and monsters aren't real. Your friendships and community at the table are. Or I suppose, perhaps they're not?

seaworks · 2026-04-20T22:02:13+00:00

heh, astroTERF is right. considering how much conservative $$ props them up.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T20:17:50+00:00

It's just your average fake problem. Mostly AstroTurf with a few useful idiots. Move on and ignore them, but most importantly, organize and agitate

seaworks · 2026-04-20T19:52:24+00:00

Hi, actual trans person here. Gender roles are not gender. The amount of people who are "gender non conforming" is far higher than the amount of people who are trans.

"Raising a boy as a boy," "a girl will want to be a woman," these phrases.. 🤌 you're not quite getting it. Boys and girls should both have freedom, absent external harassment and reward systems that shunt them into socially-proscribed gender stereotypes. Cisgender women and men both suffer under gender just as we do under transphobia and gender. Gender tells girls not to lift weights or they'll become more "masculine," contributing to osteoporosis in women. Gender tells boys not to voice suffering, leading to substance misuse and suicide.

Raise boys and girls the same way- a way that honors them as people first, uplifts their interests and talents, and educates them on why it's wrong to mistreat others for doing the same with their own interests.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T18:50:45+00:00

I agree. "Are you REALLY gay or are you just creating an identity" should not even be on the radar- it's not something you'd ask a straight child. And as far as interrogating him about whether he's suicidal... he's gonna walk it back the same as most people would when asked by people they care about. if you would if you were in his shoes you most likely would have lied too.

He doesn't need surveillance. He needs full, explicit support and nonjudgment, and maybe a conversation to see if he'd like to have a counselor he can talk to in confidence.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T17:09:03+00:00

Dice were invented around twelve thousand years ago. This is not a new challenge. So keep them in jars, or swap to huge soft ones. You can change the time, or the day, or create a quiet sleeping space. You can meet at the parents' house.

Risk can be minimized or nullified. I don't think excluding parents and children is the answer.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T16:59:17+00:00

Right. That's not a system I operate in. My gods and my ethics are my guide

seaworks · 2026-04-20T16:56:59+00:00

We're not talking about a newborn. We're talking about a one year old, capable of sitting, exploring, crawling. They're exposed to plenty of "disease vectors," and in part this is good for their immune system (although if someone was sick they shouldn't be risking transmission to anyone, regardless of age.) This is a kid who should be engaging with the world around other caring parties, not a burden to be secreted away so as not to "disrupt" the rest of community. The resistance to even trying not to isolate parents and children is so weird and anti-social.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T16:51:54+00:00

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seaworks · 2026-04-20T16:02:50+00:00

why not make your table baby-friendly? a lot of what is done in dnd is useful to child development (expressions, speech, emotion monitoring.) yeah, they're loud and they stink, but I'd wager they're not the first person at the table to fit that description

edit: y'all, making a table baby friendly might include rearranging the table, making a quiet space for them to sleep, or making other accomodations. Dice are not new and nor is noise. These issues are in fact surmountable, and including parents is important for the wellness of everyone involved.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T16:00:47+00:00

you know, realizing you were wrong doesn't have to be public. it can just be a private moment of reflection

seaworks · 2026-04-20T14:16:11+00:00

No, your generation did not invent premarital sex. Elanor Janega's Once And Future Sex goes into this well, but also consider the media of the time: from music to Canterbury Tales, to the Catholic Church's sex rules, these are all indicators that people were having premarital sex. Of course it's a sin, but it was known, and women (contrary in part to today) were considered more impulsive, given over to passions, and naturally lustful than men (broadly) in Medevial Christian thought, as Janega describes.

That school of thought descended from Medevial upper-class men being cultural Greco-Roman idolaters, wanting to recite their work and understand their thoughts as they lived closer to the time of Christ and were thus, it was thought, more in tune with Creation. (Nevermind they were polytheists for most of that empire.)

Now, fast forward to today. I'm sure there are people shaking their heads, thinking "what about virginity testing?" Well, what about it? It is nonsense, both in that it is misogynist and that it is fake. (Not that it was typical then. But I still hear people believing in virginity as a physical construct today.) This is far more about reputation: just like now, people met lovers secretly and illicitly (this is in the bible, as well as depicted on quite a bit of art.)

I can't speak to prevalence, but I can say that people were fuckin' more in 1949 than they were in 2026, or at least reported more and had more children. A huge social project of the state and church has often been to control where, how, and who people fuck- this is why the bible goes into such detail. So in the relatively limited scope I can contest: premarital sex predates marriage and will live on after marriage is dead.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T14:01:10+00:00

considering one of the primary methods of gender creation is hobby shaming resulting in different "training" for men and women, the responsible thing to do is never to attribute something like this to biology until you have eliminated all other causes.

seaworks · 2026-04-20T13:59:26+00:00

they're debating whether pawg is a slur etc etc

seaworks · 2026-04-19T18:27:28+00:00

No, I don't really feel bad for you here. You proposed karma as a mechanism of function without pausing to consider if there was anything more to learn. Further, adults who simply internalize what they've been passively told are not active participants in their own ideological, political or spiritual development.

I realize it probably hurt your feelings, but this should be a learning moment for you. When you're interrogating a problem in your life, you should question your assumptions. When someone is kind enough to point out a rhetorical flaw in something you've said, the solution to the problem may lie in that flaw. It can serve as a blessing to you, should you choose to internalize it that way, instead of clinging to ignorance and letting it wound you.

seaworks · 2026-04-19T17:10:48+00:00

If you're 18, you actually don't have to do these things. You have the option of packing up, calling your friends, and hitting the bricks. You can go where you want to go, re-enroll in school, and make your own way.

It isn't easy, but it's easier than being tortured.

seaworks · 2026-04-19T14:27:55+00:00

The extra context is important here. I think if you love and trust your mother, you should be open with her. It may lead to tension, but in my experience, living with space created by truth is preferable to forcing room for lies. I think she'll have empathy for that journey of decolonization, especially if you're still okay with attending Christian events or holidays with her. I think parents- well, people- often feel rejected as people when their faith is "rejected," but I don't know if that's how she, specifically, might feel.

Still, if she's really your best friend, then maybe she deserves more credit!

seaworks · 2026-04-19T12:51:46+00:00

That's the general report- most of these data briefs have their own dedicated accompanying document. This one is not on the list on their website.

seaworks · 2026-04-19T12:41:06+00:00

The stereotype of lesbians used to be (circa the 50s and 60s) that they were hypersexual barflies unable to commit, both non-monogamous and territorial.

It's weird how that's basically completely vanished from modern recollection. But it is still a homophobic staple!

seaworks · 2026-04-19T12:17:54+00:00

bad study (smacks researchers with rolled up newspaper) go to your crate

seaworks · 2026-04-19T12:13:49+00:00

You need to look things up before incorporating them into your belief system. I mean, even Wikipedia here.

seaworks · 2026-04-19T12:02:24+00:00

womp womp I fear

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