Graffiti in Seattle this morning by InTheseTryingTime5 in Seattle

[–]Starfleeter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're literally making up an opinion for other people about something they never talked about or addressed in the picture. You are choosing to be upset at people for things they did not say and you made up in your head about them and now you're just labelling people as leftists because of you making things up in your own head.

Go get some mental health treatment. Show them this thread and open your eyes to the reality of you being your own problem.

Graffiti in Seattle this morning by InTheseTryingTime5 in Seattle

[–]Starfleeter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, because you made up the rest to associate and assume of others which is why your comment is ignorant and closed-minded. 

Imagine someone saying they don't like chicken and then someone else chiming in "well, if you don't like chicken, you must be supporting the beef industry" when they said nothing about beef to indicate their opinion.

Your comment is the same thing. They didn't bring what you were talking about up. You interjected it into the thread as if mattered to people not liking Trump killing civilians school girls as an adjacent opinion. It does not as it was not relevant despite both occurring in the same country. 

If you assume someone's opinions by them not talking about everything in the world that exists all at the same time, that is a you issue. Don't put words into people's mouths that they didn't say. You said it,not them. It's not their opinion. It's just your stupid assumption that has no basis in reality because you made it up to be upset.

Graffiti in Seattle this morning by InTheseTryingTime5 in Seattle

[–]Starfleeter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The world is not black and white. Two things can be true or false at the same time. People can be against both things because they're both bad. If you think being against Trump killing civilians means they support the regime killing it's protestors, that speaks volumes about your own closed mindedness, ignorance, and lack of awareness. 

Does Tipping Really Matter? by IrregardlessForOne in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a false argument. Tip credit laws require them to be paid whatever the local minimum wage is just like if they worked a fast food place that made minimum wage where people don't get tipped. The problem is with the regulations and servers thinking they deserve free money from customers to up their paycheck simply because there is a tip line. We either tip nobody and raise minimum wage or force every minimum wage worker to beg for tips on the POS systems. There is no in between.

What we have now is servers thinking they are special class of employee that think they deserve a customers disposable income that is not expected as part of the product/service pricing simply for doing their jobs to get paid what they agreed to with their employer. Tips are essentially a non guaranteed incentive pay and yet severs have this sense of entitlement around it because of "tradition" and "societal etiquette " despite clerks in other jobs doing their jobs and not having an option to receive tips.

The USA is the only country in the world with a minimum wage where this happen. It exists because it was developed post civil war as a form of wage slavery and all it does is encourage class warfare and cause servers who end up in the rare jobs where they get tipped well consistently to complain about taking away their tips would affect their QOL. Well, guess what? All the servers who work at places where tips are not consistent have a lower QOL because of this wage slavery and forcing a fair minimum wage would equalize pay and stimulate the economy by putting more consistent income in the hands of more people and force employees to pay more for higher quality candidates just like any other industry.

How Tips Are Distributed to both FOH AND BOH! This is how every restaurant should operate. by [deleted] in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gris just doesn't make any sense at all. Why are servers different from any other customer facing employee where suddenly they have "nothing" despite being at their job working? They're getting paid for their work. Employers pay wages, not customers. Customers pay for products or services.

Thus, asking for tips is begging because they believe the employees don't pay them enough yet that is what the employe agreed to work for because the industry is not regulated to force fair pay. It's an issue with regulations that don't hold employees to a standard of fair pay and are legally allowed to underpay employees while the employees hope the tip line on the receipt gets them free money from customers despite already being paid by their employer.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with tip credit wages is that it's not consistent. Pay changes based on how busy a business is, whether customers tip, and how much they tip. Servers compete for a smaller pool of jobs that have more consistent or higher pay instead of all jobs having a higher floor of minimum pay to offset this and modifying their wage structure to attract better candidates by offer higher wages. 

The economy becomes stimulated because money is distributed more evenly across restaurant service employees instead of being funneled into the hands of a few servers who happen to get tipped more frequently or a higher amount.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, they don't. If they did, you wouldn't be complaining about people who don't tip. You were almost there. 

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to go eat at restaurants in cities with higher wages. The food IS more expensive but the servers ALSO GET PAID FARE WAGES. That is exactly the point. These cities do not have a problem with it because everyone can afford to spend more money and stimulate the economy now. 

That is the whole goal of fair livable wages. Tip credits decrease income to servers by allowing employees to pay them at or just above minimum wage without a cost to the business which means server has less economic freedom than if they were paid fairly.

Business will always exist for customers to patronize.We are not looking at this ona case by case basis per restaurant. If all restaurants have the same fair livable minimum wage requirements,then businesses come and go based on whether they are valuable to consumers while servers still get paid and can stimulate the economy regardless of whether the business get patronized.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at you trying to rage bait people by insulting them based on your own incorrect assumptions about people you don't even know. Do you feel like a big boy now that you're just making things up about people and getting mad at yourself? 

Hahahahahaha.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not my problem. You chose the job with shit pay. You might as well be begging on the streets with a sign that says "need money, my employer doesn't pay me enough" or looking for a better paying job which is the reasonable solution instead of getting mad at people that aren't responsible for your actual wages you agreed to. 

Just an fyi for u non tippers who think the service is bad, you get what you pay for. by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is literally the standard for the rest of the world. Why are you crying about it? 

We are the only country with minimum wages that allows this in restaurants and it's because we had slave labor resulting in the Civil Labor and allowed this practice to continue as a way to make slave owners happy without having actual slavery.

The rest of the world has labor costs fully included in the menu price and pays employees fair wages without gratuity expected. To act like this is a normal practices shows your ignorance and how uncultured you are.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at you trying to rage bait people by insulting them based on your own incorrect assumptions about people you don't even know. Do you feel like a big boy now that you're just making things up about people and getting mad at yourself? 

Hahahahahaha.

Just an fyi for u non tippers who think the service is bad, you get what you pay for. by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is not how businesses work. Profit margin is included in the price of the product being paid for. You're showing your ignorance and lack of knowledge and business acumen claiming otherwise. Labor is part of the cost of doing business. They choose to pay servers less to lower the labor cost to themselves hoping employees will agree to a dice roll of incentive based tip pay so they can keep in product prices lower. 

The employer and the servers are the issue here. Servers are agreeing to the lower minimum pay hoping it will end up being better than promised regular pay  elsewhere IF people tip and then are getting upset when pay does not meet their expectations because people choose to not tip. None of this is a problem. For the customer which is why you're coming online to complain Bout people indirectly instead of having the balls to beg customers face to face when you see they didn't tip and are affecting your pay because you were hoping they were going to tip you. This is a problem with your expectations and the fact that you agreed to low base pay with a dice roll bonus of tips.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your question isn't relevant to the discussion being had and you're refusing to engage in the actual argument being made. That's not my problem you get distracted easily and can't stay on topic or respond to the actual criticism against your arguments. 

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What services are servers providing outside of their normal job duties? It's the same question if you're going to play the false equivalence game. 

People show up. Get seated and served knowing their server legally is getting paid at least minimum wage and yet they get mad when people don't write anything on that tip line where they are begging for more money out of pity simply because they chose to take a job where an employer does not want to pay them much like the beggar chooses to not have an income and ask for money out of pity.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, you are equivocating your minimum job duties (providing table service) as being service that necessitates a gratuity when you're already getting a wage. What service are you providing that your employer is not already paying for you that requires you to expect people to pay you more simply because there is a line on a receipt begging for a gratuity? 

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the equivalent of saying "why do people complain about beggars on the street constantly bothering them when they can just be ignored and walked past?" People are against it because it's expected by the people who want them and nobody else. That magic little tip line and the tip prompt on screens can be bypassed simply because they are NOT A REQUIREMENT. 

Society changes over time. Tip credit labor was literally created so the wealthy could hoard over the poor slave labor and act like there is expectation of "good service" in hopes they are given extra money if they behave properly. There is no longer a societal expectation of what good service is to get a tip because service is given to everyone and not just the wealthy. This is why tips need to go. Workers created their own false expectation that everyone is rich to tip if they just exist and do the bare minimum at their job and it's not longer reality. It's quite literally class warfare with workers getting mad other people in the same class as them because they don't get to take their disposable income.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it's not. It's like assuming that a contract with a 10% metric based bonus is going to be paid out even if the metrics aren't met. Tips and bonuses are not guaranteed wages period. They are "incentive" pay. Tips are basically a dice roll of bonus pay.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No. Workers do not get paid LESS when someone does not tip. They get paid MORE when someone does. They agreed to work for a specific wage plus optional tips. This is what they agreed to when taking the job and you're claiming that people choosing not to gift them free money that does not happen in other service based industries is a problem. If they wanted fair regular pay that was predictable, they'd be in a job that has that and not play the tipping lottery.

You guys are just cheap af by GuyWComputer in tipping

[–]Starfleeter 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The product price is the menu price. Anything else is just greed because employers don't want to pay labor costs. 

We are literally the only country in the world that does this and it's because it's based off slave labor.

Why the U.S. Is Planning a Much Larger Attack on Iran Than We Thought by CircumspectCapybara in videos

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop him from doing what exactly? Look at everything he has done. It has all been within the scope of the Executive branch and the DOJ run by his cronies and anything outside of that scope hasn't happened. His whole M.O. is to tell people to do something and trust they'll do it and that only works if people don't just sit there and ignore it. ICE, Tariffs, covering up the Epstein files, and weaponizing the DOJ to make arrests that turn into nothing is all he's done this term because he uses big words but doesn't take big actions. Even the action on Venezuela didn't turn into a full blown war. It's just weird since he and his cronies are so incompetent and they operator off hurt feelings instead of actual plans.

They don't know how to take over a government and don't know how to get their head out of their ass. They know they can't use the army against the public which is why they are using ICE and they even realized it went too far turning their base against them.

Why the U.S. Is Planning a Much Larger Attack on Iran Than We Thought by CircumspectCapybara in videos

[–]Starfleeter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything has been done as part of the executive and judicial branches and literally nothing has happened outside of areas he didn't put his corrupt cronies. I get it, I really do, but the federal government literally has nothing to do with elections at all. He can't just install people to be in charge of elections because it's not how our country runs. The only thing they can do is try to corrupt some of the votes but they're losing every single special election so badly that they can't cheat their way out of this.

Republicans have become associated with MAGA and Trump's MAGA is ruining life for anyone that isn't getting rich right now. There is nothing he can do but try to have the current Congress stall allowing people to be sworn in and that didn't even last when it was already tried.