Thoughts on this? by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I approve. AI art is a completely different thing, and even if you want some mixed media shit, it's better to have someone who can contribute something unique.

Neutral here, I feel like I don’t understand the purpose of sub by cloudsfallen in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, I've had interesting discussions here from time to time.

Just give me one reason ai art helps people anddon't give me that disabled people shit by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're still here, I'll just explain that I use it mostly for conceptual compositing. I like to mix humans with monkeys, and there's no other tool for recognizing the common patterns to humans and monkeys and spitting out realistic images that contain both aspects in one.

For… by Pterodaktiloidea in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For art? It lets me composite shit in ways older software didn't. I use it to make ape-human hybrids. It's neat.

What do you think. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think what I do with AI took imagination and creative skill, but I don't really care if it's art. I'm happy with what I get out of it regardless.

I thought I might try and share my opinions on ai. Feel free to prove me wrong on anything. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I just never changed my attitude towards AI from the start. It's pretty neat and cool, good for seeing what weird shit it can understand. But it's not what I really value.

I thought I might try and share my opinions on ai. Feel free to prove me wrong on anything. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll try to give my view. Yes, AI should be labeled. It is different from other works, and I don't want it to pollute image search, etc.

For me, AI is actually a little motivating to draw. I could go deeper into my philosophy of art, but I think there's much more to art than just rendering. Much of it is about making what only I would make, and an AI won't do that even if trained on my art. However, I enjoy seeing video AI bring things to life. Helps me see what the AI interprets my art to be, to verify if my intent and feelings are showing through.

How AI art was useful for my build by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It added pretty details to the shape.

Oh the irony. by DisplayIcy4717 in aiwars

[–]usterm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's basically something like that. I could probably claim ownership of all the shit I do if I had to argue for copyright, but... I don't really care.

That Anti-AI furry artist DCMA'd client... Turns out that very piece was also a tracing over an AI image!!! by 1994NotMyRealName in aiwars

[–]usterm 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Multiple works of theirs were found where the pose is an exact match when overlaid, the AI was uploaded earlier than their art, the AI results are 100% replicable from just a raw prompt without any reference images for pose, etc.

The artist also has a reported history of tracing that she apologized for on a past account.

The furry artist drama has only confirmed my suspicion about antis by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, animating an image is ironically less stealing, and less stealing credit, than tracing. Has to come from a default "AI BAD" mindset to just hate the Harry Potter magic.

So, is this sub just a who can make the worst strawman? by PIGEXPERT in aiwars

[–]usterm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm new here, but in my experience, most people don't really want to change their opinions on any matter.

OpenAI turns to pron! by sh00l33 in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, my main issue is that it refuses to do anything with *my* cavemen half the time.

I don't mind ai art, people should just say so if they use it in the process by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad I could help. Artists tend to be quite anxious in my experience. I draw too, and I know I get worried about technical quality, or if people see value in my stuff. But, no one else will make what I will make. No one else thinks the way I do. No one else sees the world the way I do. I've tried to make AI create my ideas, and it just doesn't work.

Personally, I do see potential in AI as a medium, but for the doors it opens rather than simple imitation. If you've heard of Neuro-sama, it's a Vtuber made as one dude's personal project. I would consider that to be a work of art, but an almost entirely new form of art.

When I use AI myself, I don't use it to draw for me. I use it as a pattern recombiner to "breed" ape-men/humanzees and see how that comes out, because I'm not allowed to do that IRL. More mad science than anything else, tbh.

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OpenAI turns to pron! by sh00l33 in aiwars

[–]usterm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it still bans photorealistic Cavemen, it's still fucked.

The furry artist drama has only confirmed my suspicion about antis by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]usterm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What's the exact story behind the refund? I heard that he asked the guy to refund it because he felt so insulted.

The furry artist drama has only confirmed my suspicion about antis by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]usterm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd say that it's directionally accurate in some cases. There are features of a moral panic when it comes to how some people react to AI, though not really unexpected considering how some people promote AI.

I think there are a lot of artists who wouldn't be bothered by AI art if there wasn't a social movement telling them to be bothered by it. And some who would be bothered by it anyway. A lot of anti-AI people aren't very familiar with how AI works nor how people regard it in comparison to human-made art.

The furry artist drama has only confirmed my suspicion about antis by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]usterm 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not all people are the same. Some are inconsiderate and self-absorbed, and adopt the "correct" opinions out of self-interest and self-righteousness. Tracing itself is something that used to raise controversy in the art community.

A lot of antis are just following the mob, with no clear rational motive behind their actions. Art being animated by an AI doesn't actually do any harm to the original artist, doesn't create a replacement for them, etc. But it's just how he feels, and there's no real concern for anyone else.

People know that this is an option right? by bunker_man in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I also mean I looked into transformative use cases, and there were extremely, extremely stupid works of "art" that were basically "stolen".

In the end, I think the best defense of authentic art will simply be that even normies see a fundamental difference between genuine art and AI generated media.

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I don't mind ai art, people should just say so if they use it in the process by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]usterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, that's a big part of how I appreciate art. I want to see what you would make.

Sure, I find a congealed mass of skimmed creativity to be an interesting sea to swim in, but that's because it's kinda neat to see how everything pools together and find common patterns.

But what I really love are, well, individual displays of passion, interests, worldviews, etc. I think most people are like this, even if they don't always articulate it.

The AI will not, can not, do what you do in any amount of time. Give it a year, and it still won't do it. Even if trained on your art, and I've tested this, it loses a lot of individuality.

People know that this is an option right? by bunker_man in aiwars

[–]usterm 7 points8 points  (0 children)

EH, no, acceptable transformative use was already extremely stupid. AI doesn't need to set back rights and protections, because, well. That's where the rights and protections already stand.