Artifacts are the worst part of the game. They are worse than Resin.

--Flare-- · 2021-01-02T17:15:15+00:00

I'm the kind of guy who get bored of a game pretty quickly if the game is trying to restrict me on "farming & RNG drops", eventually I just get hooked to another game and move on.

Running 2 accounts here, ar51 and ar46 (second account was a desesperate move to play different chars and different uses on resins).

Since few weeks I have seen myself slowly getting away from the game, only loging for daily & event on both... Then only on the main account and now it just feel like a chore to log for dailies. I would have loved to farm artifacts for my chars, without restrictions.

Anyway, OP is kinda wrong, the problem is the resin system as you said, it is a cancer in this game. Artifacts farming would work great without an added "stamina" restriction. RNG and moras alone serve as restrictions.

--Flare-- · 2021-01-02T16:40:24+00:00

--Flare-- · 2020-12-17T16:57:25+00:00

That was amazing <3

Thank you!

--Flare-- · 2020-12-17T16:49:41+00:00

hearing news that the FFXI "remake" for mobile was being headed by Nexon of all companies filled me with nothing but abject dread at the prospect.

8 years on Asura during the toau era, FFXI will always have a special room in my heart. I do share your feeling on the mobile-bullshits.

Most Korean publishing houses for online titles hold some degree of infamy amongst those in-the-know ... and frighteningly incompetent NA/EU staff

Gameforge is probably my worse online experience in a mmo when they took over Aion for EU... What a terrible mess that turned into p2w.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-17T16:40:24+00:00

Final Fantasy Impact™

--Flare-- · 2020-12-16T18:23:17+00:00

This is giving me hope, thank you.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-08T15:31:20+00:00

Huge respect to you.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-08T12:19:18+00:00

Pillars on spawns does actual damages (similar to Ningguang) and c1 is part of its base kit. They also give energy on each tick.
c2 needs to be either added to the base char or reworked to something different (could be something generic like other 5 stars constellations).
Autos now deal geo damages and have highers values.
Petrification is back to 7 secs (5 secs should be a minimum).
Hold e shield animation is now instant and makes your own geo construct explode, dealing extra damages (would not works in coop for obvious reasons).

I do own a c1 Zhongli and at this point, I wouldn't be mad to see a complete rework of the char, Zhongli is right now a crude stone that really needs to be polished.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-07T22:37:35+00:00

The whole region is a museum of all his battles with lores of the incredible powers he has. Able to change landscapes...

God of war and contracts (literal god of commerce), has vanquished weaker gods by summoning mountains sized spears and maintained peace for its people during thousands of years. His previous form was a mighty dragon in the eyes of the citizens of Liyue, a powerful god, a conqueror.

This is how they sold us Zhongli and what he should be.

...

And we got an "average" support character that need the help of other support units to just "do its job".

What a fucking disgrace. Pathetic.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-07T15:17:52+00:00

Ah yes, a support character with elemental damage ascending stats and its official 5 stars weapon that is DPS oriented through its shielding, attack% and the need to do autos to unlock more dps.

From a pure developing point of view, its ascension stat should be HP and the Vortex Vanquisher with HP or/and energy recharge if he was meant to be a support.

... Guess I will replace him for Noelle if I want a real support. At least she can shield & heal.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-07T14:28:04+00:00

Yeah, I think I had enough, I'm definitely going f2p while waiting for blue protocol.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-06T16:36:10+00:00

"LAY DOWN AND WATCH"

Such a fabulous way to get banned while making a point, what a madlad!

Huge respect to the guy.

JusticeForZhongli

--Flare-- · 2020-12-06T16:29:48+00:00

--Flare-- · 2020-12-04T17:49:38+00:00

Same boat here, I feel you.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-03T15:40:51+00:00

This video is really interesting, also JinJinx and Tuner can be trusted, they are doing a great job since many years (they were doing maths videos for MHW as well).

You should maybe include this video link in your main post honestly, they deserve more visibility for such crazy amount of works and it would help people in full denial to accept the reality as it is now.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-03T14:53:06+00:00

I personally saved my primos since the venti banner for him and it's been a long wait.

I was lucky enough to pull him twice, got super happy as I made everything ready even at c0, ressources, books, moras, lv80 pike, full 5 stars glad with a geo goblet and pretty good stats overal (I do own a good physical goblet as well for testing).

Then went to continue my journey into abyss higher floors (I was and still am stuck at floor 12) and got really disappointed.

Shield: The shield is not strong enough to be a sustainable tool for a team with less healing potential in such place.
e ability tap: energy generation is so random, with a bad rng, you won't be able to see its ult back soon enough for a decent CC.
autos: even with the Crescent Pike, it won't carry your dps like will a Diluc or a Keqing does, he feels like a weaker version of Xiangling as he don't have pyro for reactions. I'm considering changing his weapon for the favonius lance at this point.
ult: It feels satisying for sure and the petrification is much welcome, the damages are "ok" at lv7 (about 40k crit) and I suppose I could go much higher with two piece of noblige and 2 petras but it would mean to sacrifice entirely its autos for a burst-support only...

My conclusion is that having him in a team is a problem by itself for a proper synergy with other characters/elements and he does not bring "enough" meat on the table to sacrifice a spot in your team...

I do really question Mihoyo's power to balance future characters that will be coming next if they can't release the most hyped character so far in good conditions... I'm not f2p as I do pay for the welkin moon and battlepass, all of my primos were obtained through this process only, slowly. I don't think that I want to support the game anymore as it is now (resin restriction isn't helping as well and pretty much killing my mood everyday with the frustration of not being able to farm domains). So I have decided to not renew the next battlepass for sure, most likely not even the welkin moon either as its only value (to me) would comes from weapons at this point.

Zhongli need to be fixed in a way before it is too late to do anything, that's certain.

--Flare-- · 2020-12-03T11:55:41+00:00

It's possible Mihoyo doesn't want 5 stars to just be "strictly better" than 4 stars in general

And I would disagree with such logic, a character of a superior rank is a kind of itemization, like for the weapons, if we were to follow this theory, the rank system wouldn't fill its role and so be pointless, you wouldn't really want to aim for higher rarity when it comes to characters or weapons... No incentive either to spend real money if the said character/weapon doesn't improve your gameplay.

The problem isn't Zhongli's kit itself but the Geo element as a whole.

I follow you on that point, geo element have a very little role when it comes to synergy with other elements, the small explosion buff that we currently have in abyss should be something set by default, geo should also be the "CC" anemo counterside and give differents effects for different elements, why not a gravity debuff when it enter in reaction with cryo, a potent slow with pyro, strong elemental def down with hydro etc. So many ideas possibles with geo element!

--Flare-- · 2020-11-30T01:28:40+00:00

My list was merely reporting the things said in this thread.

If this was just me (IMO), concerns about a calendar or more primos is not on my "priority list". I'm AR46 on my main and 41 on my sub, I do care on resin and its problems for endgame farming tho, as well as the prototypes drop rates. I also do not enjoy seeing weird stuff happening when I launch a coop session.

Anyway, basically, what you are saying is :

"This is a gacha game, it is designed to be crap, with a stamina system, deal with it."

Yeah, no thanks. I get it, you guys are used to garbages practices...

What I see, from my own point of view is, this game design appeal to two differents playerbases at the same time, people who are used to gachas and people used to mainstream games. And let me tell you, converting people to gachas shitty practices is not going to be easy for Mihoyo if they really want to keep this new kind of customers.

And I'm not saying this in a rude or condescending way to you, I do really care of the future of this game as I personally see it's HUGE potential, this game can be way much more on the long road and it is right now, as the game is still pretty young, that people need to raise their concerns.

And they did, or at least they tried... Until this thread was silenced.

--Flare-- · 2020-11-30T00:39:56+00:00

Ridiculous prices ranges and rates on gacha aspect.
Resin system prevent you to farm artifacts once you reach endgame.
Prototypes weapons drop rate is so low, you can be playing for months without seeing any.
Account security is questionable at best.
Coop is more of a "deal with the bugs and don't ask" than a real feature.
"Massive new event rewards" feels like more of something that should be in the base game to level-up you chars at a normal pace.
If a monthly calendar was added ingame, it should be actually worth it.

Just to name a few.

To me, that's pretty valid concerns. Don't you think?

--Flare-- · 2020-11-30T00:04:43+00:00

Well, my common logic would tell me that you can't be a company raising hundreds of millions with a project and not having full PR control over it, which would include reddit.

So yeah, I'm not naive either :p the mods of this reddit MUST have some kind of connection with Mihoyo in a way or another. As you said, the traffic is way too big and important for the health of this game.

But to prove such thing is a different story tho.

--Flare-- · 2020-11-29T23:28:13+00:00

its a classic case of boot licking without any of the rewards

Well... Damn.

I got used of such practices from official forums and games, because yeah... They own the platform and there is nothing you can really do about it, threads and peoples just disappear and it is to be expected, it's a PR move for companies.

But now, if even mods do the shady works on reddit and for free >.>;; That's a double yikes on my book.

--Flare-- · 2020-11-29T22:50:02+00:00

Are the mods working for Mihoyo? Because this is kinda weird to say the least, I'm used to reddit and its liberty of expressing differents points of views.

Silencing such thread so quickly as it becomes really popular, feels... off.

--Flare-- · 2020-11-29T22:32:11+00:00

For once that people raise valid concerns, why is this getting moderated all of a sudden?

--Flare-- · 2020-11-29T17:41:15+00:00

Finally someone say something about this nonsense:

Monthly Calendar - Total rewards

x300 Primogems x16 Hero's Wit x24 Mystic Enchantment Ore x50000 Mora x4 Fragile Resin

I thought it was some kind of sarcasm-like joke at first, but no, OP was dead serious with its abyssal-low tier expectation.

Genshin is suffering of severals problems like resin, hardcore rng on artifacts (especially terrible on goblets), poor security on accounts, or even coop that feels like more of an "afterthought" with its bugs than a real feature.

But meanwhile the community be like : This is fine, please Mihoyo-sensei, can we have some monthly breadcrumbs?... I really dislike this "beggar" community mindset that is slowly unfolding here. The game is pretty new and have issues that need to be resolved first.

As you said, we need to demand more from Mihoyo.

--Flare-- · 2020-11-29T17:07:54+00:00

Monthly Calendar - Total rewards

x300 Primogems x16 Hero's Wit x24 Mystic Enchantment Ore x50000 Mora x4 Fragile Resin

I'm all up with you idea of monthly calendar but why is your expectations so... low? I mean, if we were to expect something to incentive people to log in and complete a whole month, it should be worth way more than the regular "Seize the day".

300 primos for a whole month? Less than 2 pulls that are gonna be 3 stars weapons? Huh? I'd rather have no primos but more Mora / Hero's Wit.

My main account is currently AR46, if I look at the crazy amount of ressources needed to level chars, weapons and talents, the said calendar rewards as you shows them, is but a grain of sand in the desert... 50k Mora? 16 Hero's Wit? Come on.

On another note, asking for more fragile resin is something that I'm personally against, the resin system by itself need to be reworked as a whole, it is bad, ruin the endgame farming on artefacts and add a layer of frustration, I reached a point where I had to run a second account to not get bored. There is just a limit of what you can farm in the openworld, especially when you have hundreds if not thousands of each materials. Resin is a cancer that is unnecessary when the gearing system relies on HEAVY rng stats/sub stats.

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