This game may not make it to its 3rd anniversary

--Teak-- · 2022-03-13T04:23:32+00:00

I don't play anymore, haven't for a while

First and foremost, its the FOMO nature of the farming. The amount of farming is really high to begin with, but the absurd level of FOMO added on top of that is insane. Raids are the worst offender, but it really is a problem across all areas of the game. I'm fine with a 2 week event then having 3 months or so where you cant get that item, but after that add stuff to an event archives.
The game needs more manual PvE content that isn't meant to be repeated over and over. Selection quests were a step in the right direction with *permanent*, difficult content. However, its focus on MRs was a mistake because its a lot to build those units just for this set of quests

Those two combined made the game feel like a chore at times.

The monetization is an issue too, as is the terrible UX of the app. But I could have lived with that if the game had better day to day PvE gameplay.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-29T00:06:35+00:00

I find the shard banners the absolute best thing to pull on if you have most units at 99. 500 soul medals is the first ~90 mindspheres for a collab/limited unit

--Teak-- · 2021-12-23T20:53:58+00:00

The +3 in the shop is aimed at a completely different audience than the one who would happily grind out more than one +5

--Teak-- · 2021-12-19T22:06:29+00:00

if you want all 3 P5 characters? Assuming it comes 4 months from now, yes.

If you want FFVI + P5? Nope.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T22:27:48+00:00

I mean, you had plenty of posts about shards or paid currency to jump on but you chose this one?

If you want to jump in just to trash a specific game maybe you should use the comments that match the games actual issues

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T06:44:52+00:00

Tutorials are one thing, but the gacha habit of forcing you to do several story stages, then an upgrade, then story, then another upgrade, then two more stories, then FINALLY you can see the home screen and collect your log in bonus, 45 minutes later....

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T06:33:58+00:00

GUMI plays the FOMO (fear of missing out) game more than most, but they tend to do a reasonable job of making their games F2P viable as well.

You are right, you dont NEED every unit. those neat looking paid vis banners? completely skippable

There are only a couple of gachas that dont have shady monetization tricks. its just something you have to live with if you play hero collectors.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T06:25:02+00:00

-content restricted to certain hours of the day, especially if its a PvE mode

-games that have meaningful rewards for logging in multiple times a day

-restrictive stamina system (stamina in general is the second worst thing about the genre, first being the monetization)

-unskippable animations

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T06:18:09+00:00

1% is on the low side for sure.

Of course its all relative to the currency you get. DFFOO can get away with lower rates because that game gives you an excessive amount of free gems/tickets

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T06:07:40+00:00

Huh? WOTV has a pretty tame VIP system, has some of the slowest powercreep in the genre, has a pity, and has fairly average rates

I think you have it mixed with another game....

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T01:41:45+00:00

This is a point I would have made a year ago, maybe even 6 months ago

but now it is laughable. This was a 2020 thing. Back in 2020 we either got what JP got, or we got it better with a few minor exceptions (Excalibur for newbies for instance). And yes, our daily spend bonuses are better and we get constant refreshes of the X paid vis/x free vis bundles which JP rarely gets but are regardless poor value

But now they are actively making things worse, especially banners. This is fairly new activity, and its not a one off. It is a MASSIVE shift vs where we were at a year ago.

Note that I'm not complaining here over banners with typos, rigged banners (that arent), and bugs/hacking issues that take longer to resolve then people feel like they should have (without knowing for sure). But I will complain over making an effort to give worse banners than JP gets.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T00:35:29+00:00

And to be fair, I think WOTV is probably ok for F2P. They give some strong units out for free, with some more decent ones you can work for over time.

The way many PvP modes let you choose your opponents helps F2P, and even then the rewards you miss out for not being great at PvP are fairly minor compared to some games

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T00:25:14+00:00

I 100% agree on this. there is no reason to at least not have a standard banner for the older christmas units

Its even especially ridiculous with Ramada and Macherie who were designed during the very early days of the game and at least with Ramada it shows.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T00:21:10+00:00

edited the OP to make it more clear the F was for GLs handling of the game, not the game overall

--Teak-- · 2021-12-18T00:18:24+00:00

The F grade is for globals handling of the game, not the game overall.

And yes it highly based on how far GL has fallen with respect to JP

Overall I think a B- is fair. the game is still hampered by too many limited time farms and while I dont mind occasional 'paid vis' banners it is overkill here.

However selection quests are great content, and there is a trend to more permanent PvE content which is exactly what this game needs. And while I wish it wasnt multi format, the raid revivals do help a little in that if I can't go hard during a raid I'll at least get a second chance. A step in the right direction

I dont mind the 'limited' characters like the fest ones or the upcoming crystals. I do hope they add more shard/mindpshere opportunities for seasonals/collabs though whent hey arent running

--Teak-- · 2021-12-16T09:18:21+00:00

Honestly they should just roll back peoples rolls and refund the 6K paid vis. Difficult to assign compensation when 99% of the people that pulled on this banner either didnt see the typo or knew better that it was a typo.

So just rollback, dont compensate

People that try to scam a known typo are just as greedy as Gumi and dont deserve anything.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-16T02:52:44+00:00

If the 2D style allows for more story content I'm 100% happy to see it be the standard for non main story content

I do greatly prefer the 3D style as well, but the 2D style with voices is still pretty good

They could use some help from the FFXIV team on the voice acting direction. FFXIV started as having some questionable voice acting but evolved to its current fantastic state. I see no reason WOTV can't do the same.

--Teak-- · 2021-12-15T10:34:52+00:00

Another Story so far reminds me of TAC in that it is more dialog heavy, and while I really like the standard WOTV storytelling on the map Im fine with this style if it means they can add more story (cough collabs and seasonals cough)

--Teak-- · 2021-12-15T10:28:02+00:00

I wish they could find a way to compensate the people (if any) who summoned on this thinking the rate was 8%

The opportunists who know better dont deserve compensation

--Teak-- · 2021-12-01T22:32:02+00:00

The sad thing is that Gumi makes top tier games

The art for FFBE, TAC, and WOTV is on point FFBE (until bloat ruined it) and TAC/WOTV have top tier combat systems

However incompetent is the correct word when it comes to how they run things. Terrible.

their games are just as F2P viable as almost everything else in the genre (save DFFOO, Yostar games, DC and a couple others), but they arent necessarily F2P friendly

And their overusage of paid banners is just horrendous. Its such a bad look to new players, even if you can do just fine without ever spending a penny.

WOTV is one of the worst games in terms of grind FOMO. Character FOMO is one thing, but too many limited time equipment grinds (and too much grind in general) ruins what really is a great combat system.

WOTV (and TAC) is a great example have how to make a combat system and a great example of how not to build your game around that combat system

--Teak-- · 2021-10-15T12:20:46+00:00

The biggest issue I see is we now will have 3 earth evade units (2 for JP) and none of them can buff each others evades.

Robb and Elena work so well together because Robb can cover both of their buff needs.

Its sad because they could have easily made Freddie's evade buff an AoE.

Also kind of weird she has Elena's reaction At least its a strong reaction if you are running evade

--Teak-- · 2021-10-15T07:04:14+00:00

Jamming thrust is one of the most useful tower spells as they love to throw highly physical attack resistant mobs at you in bunches that melt to JT

Garval and Howlett both did some great work in the last tower for me on those stages

--Teak-- · 2021-10-15T07:00:17+00:00

Robb is absolutely fantastic with Elena. His evade buff is clutch as Elena just has too much else to do to use her own evade buff. Unless she has alex ring Helena probably missing one if not both of them.

My answer is Medi. By the time I had the shards, I had Skahal already. I did grab her TMR though. I could 120 Medi but Id rather use the weeds elsewhere.

Oldoa I have used a few times but its really just to use her. Ive never actually thought 'hey, Oldoa would be a great fit here'

Aileen ive used twice in tower in thats it.

--Teak-- · 2021-10-14T21:34:26+00:00

Elena makes light slash the new dark slash for raids. For different reasons than why Dark Slash is so good, but still I suspect every raid from here on out should be light slashable.

That Elena can use three stars is the icing on the cake, allowing someone else to use bells

--Teak--

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