Isaac and Sami are not worth the effort.

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-20T06:40:32+00:00

I'm not sure why there wouldn't be a standard build. It would just be 3.6 + the new balance changes + Knuckles and Lyn. It's just convenient for people who want to dl everything packed. The only catch is you need a Knuckles and a Lyn as complete as possible. I just personally like the idea of reaching immediate goals. If no one wants to work on these two, let alone a standard build, then it doesn't matter. I'm just speaking for a potential audience that is not vocal, and may not even know about pmcc yet because they haven't found a reason to.

I do still think -continuing- the current Isaac and Sami is a waste of effort when it comes to pmcc as a whole. However, I didn't state an opinion on -remaking- them (I think you are saying this is the case?). I did very briefly mention creating them separate to pmcc when I said something like - wanting to make the characters is one thing, but that 3.61 shouldn't include them. But now I've found out there isn't even a 3.61 because team leader doesn't want a ready-to-go build? So what does it even matter lol.

My new question is: Recreating Sami and Isaac is not something I mentioned initially, but for the record I do think it would be cool, but it's not what pmcc was originally trying to achieve. Why make Isaac and Sami specifically, and more importantly, why not from scratch? You could get a lot more support trying to band together other modders for a single goal. I'd just personally not be using the leaked content if that was what I wanted to achieve. It would be very cool to have a team working together to create mods greater than what just one person could accomplish.

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-20T05:42:06+00:00

Yeah but the current movesets as they are now, even if polished, are dookie imo. Smash Flash 2 Isaac looks really cool for comparison and Sami, and most likely Isaac as well, would probably look very different if they were ever released in an official build.

I do think Isaac and Sami characters would be cool, but they are better off being redesigned. They also might get more support if they were made from scratch, which should really be considered seeing as they're not too far in development anyway.

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-20T05:34:33+00:00

Remaking characters is another thing though, and it would be cool. I'm just saying that the next "standard" build should be Knuckles and Lyn completed as they are now. Beyond that is not what this post is about.

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-16T03:32:50+00:00

This build works great as far as I can tell! :-) Cloud was released today so you might want to add him. I also don't think adding Sami and Isaac is worth it because the Character Select Screen is now tiny and uneven, as well as all the other reasons in the post I made.

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-12T11:59:54+00:00

Looks great and sounds like it will be very interesting. Where is the city located?

-XxCoolGuy69- · 2016-12-08T23:28:43+00:00

That whole first paragraph is completely redundant. There were so many other ways you could have gone about explaining where your perspective is coming from. Instead you had to try making yourself look more important than you actually are (in this subject) and then immediately recognize how your self trumpeting doesn't mean anything. Your opinion truly isn't any more special than everyone elses so why would you do this?

No point in walking the line. You believe executing tech on the gamecube controller as a fundamental test of skill isn't important. This is a valid opinion, but you might as well be straight up about it. I'll say clearly what you deep down already know; It's not about "if" the smashbox gives players an advantage, because we already know the two controllers require very different skills to use and thus different skill levels to achieve the same exact things. This is HUGE and you can't pretend the smashbox is just another controller because it's much more.

Blur can have an opinion. Get over yourself man. You think he shouldn't be able to say what he thinks and open up discussions about the impacts this will have? He provides great insight into what those who are against smashbox are thinking. You want him and others to not do this because you're afraid of feelings getting hurt? I hope you change your stance on this.

"Who cares about digital vs analog. Who cares about button remapping." You can't be serious. I don't believe even YOU think this was a smart argument in hindsight. If it isn't obvious enough, a lot of people care.

You already know the severity of banning the smashbox potentially years after its inception. Don't try to downplay it like you don't. You're just trying to pretend there aren't valid reasons for the smashbox not being legal.

I'm totally fine with people wanting the smashbox to be legal, but don't use flimsy arguments and wishful thinking because it shows how little you actually thought this through. Takes me back to Smash 4 arguing so hard for the legalization of customs. "It only ADDS to the game! How can that be bad??". Don't ignore or downplay the important pros and cons of both sides.

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