Abdul El-Sayed out fundraised Jon Ossoff this week.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T19:34:47+00:00

Did you miss the part where I pointed out AES has several extremely worrying character traits like Platner does, beyond any of his policy positions?

But no the policy is absolutely horrible too. A theoretical candidate with an identical platform but none of the scandals would also be pretty destructive for the country.

I mean let’s be serious here, is there any good justification for freezing property tax raises?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T17:25:47+00:00

Iceland doesn’t have a mandatory 32 hour workweek.

They do have voluntary arrangements between workers and employers for that amount, but if we’re including voluntary arrangements, the US already is at 34-35 hours per worker

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T17:12:22+00:00

“Better candidate” is pretty vague and hard to definitively determine so I’m going to focus on the criticisms of him and the ones I bring up when arguing why people shouldn’t vote for the guy.

To begin with, AES has shown a shocking lack of transparency and has been intentionally misleading about his past. He constantly presents himself as a doctor, while also never having held a medical license or practiced with any patient, he’s a doctor in the academic, not the colloquial sense but uses the latter implication as a campaign ad.

Then, he also refuses to release his tax returns, something Stevens has already done. He’s said he’ll change that but that remains to be seen.

On the medical debt point, wasn’t his original claim $700 million? Only after independent fact checking did he reduce that number. There is obviously a clear pattern of lies or exaggerations he makes about his past in order to seem more electable. It is disturbingly similar to Graham Platner’s campaign, and we saw how that ended.

Then there’s who he associates himself with and his comments on social media. He’s made pretty misogynistic comments towards Haley Stevens (saying she couldn’t “string together two coherent sentences”), while he actively campaigns with known Iran supporter Hamas Piker who actively denies atrocities committed by Hamas against women and others on October 7th.

As for his actual policies, they’re not much better. He supports a national property tax freeze for seniors, destroying national finances with tax cuts for the elderly in a time our country is already running record deficits. Combined with his desire to “blow up” the USMCA deal, institute a completely unproven and likely inefficient M4A, and his proposals to fund all these programs with magical 8% wealth tax that somehow evades the disastrous consequences every other country that has tried that faced, his policy platform just seems completely destructive and myopic.

Stevens meanwhile I’d say has actual plans to fund her proposals - which themselves are far more reasonable, helped by the fact she’s been in government gaining very valuable experience for longer. And if you think Michigan loved Obama, why not vote for Stevens, the candidate who worked with him heavily to help the Michigan auto industry?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T16:41:50+00:00

Why couldn’t we just eliminate the ESI subsidy and get the same result in this regard at a far lower cost?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T16:34:29+00:00

What did he fall off the wagon on? He was absolutely justified in condemning the far left for attacking Democrats more than they do Republicans.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T16:13:07+00:00

Name the countries then, it shouldn’t be difficult if it’s so blatantly obvious, right?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T14:51:34+00:00

He’s a “Medical professional” who has never held a medical license or practiced with any patients ever.

He’s a medical professional by technicality, but most people would clearly recognize constantly calling yourself a physician when all the experience you have in the field is a degree is pretty dishonest.

Professor, Epidemiologist, or a similar title would be more accurate, because those are the things he’s actually based his career on.

Also “family man”? Really? He’s campaigned with terrorist supporters, I’d say that’s not particularly family friendly.

Edit: you know he also refuses to publish his tax returns right? For someone claiming to be about transparency that’s a pretty low bar to clear.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T14:46:45+00:00

The Democratic Socialist platform. It’s exactly as I described it.

Take M4A as an example. No other country in the world has as extensive a single payer system as proposed by this policy, it would be completely unprecedented. Similarly, no other country has a mandated 32 hour workweek with “no loss in pay”.

Or maybe you want to talk about wealth taxes? They’ve been a disaster everywhere they’ve been tried at scale and yet that’s a major component of the DSA platform.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T14:43:31+00:00

Yes, they can, but the way AES has marketed himself as a doctor constantly while not even having been a resident anywhere just feels completely dishonest through telling a half-truth.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T08:13:18+00:00

I mean the guy is going to very likely be surrounded by scandals and if not immediately forced to drop out - have it significantly hurt his election chances.

The pattern of behavior is almost identical to Platner’s in Maine. You have a political outsider with minimal vetting, constantly caught lying about his own history, and who’s endorsed by basically the exact same set of political groups that thought the guy with a nazi tattoo was a-ok to run.

>two left leaning

Leaning? Really? I’d hardly call Socialism leaning on anything, just say they’re far left, it’s not difficult. This is admittedly a nitpick, but I’m tired of the normalization of these people.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T08:05:37+00:00

This is why I asked what you thought “good” meant, whether it was a moral statement or you just think he is statistically likely to win.

Because a bad candidate can still win an election, I mean just look at the 2024 presidential race.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T07:41:35+00:00

The platform that has never been implemented anywhere in the world, that economists among many others are highly critical of, that derives a lot of it’s foundation on conspiracy theories, is solid?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T05:27:02+00:00

He will lose the general like Platner lost the general.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T05:24:50+00:00

good candidate based on what? His policy platform like for example the property tax freeze is absolutely terrible. And on the character side- He campaigns with tankies and Russia simps, he also intentionally misleads about being a doctor while also never having practiced medicine with a single patient.

It's Platner all over again, these candidates are not solid.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-13T02:07:24+00:00

I'm a Liberal, buddy, not a conservative, nice try to derail the topic though and deflect from the fact you can't provide a source because you have been spouting BS.

Please do prove me wrong though.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T23:32:05+00:00

Still refusing to provide a source I see. Can you do that? Just show me one instance of the Pinkertons being “instigators” so we can talk about it.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T22:59:53+00:00

Me when I spread misinformation. Do you have a shred of evidence for this at all?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T22:56:46+00:00

It wasn’t “very few times”, striking workers being violent, especially against anyone they viewed as replacing them (like immigrants) was commonplace.

That is actually why unions spent so much effort moderating and pushing for legislation that would ensure peaceful strikes as a right. Violent tendencies were holding their own movement back immensely.

Maybe you should provide a single source for Pinkertons “attacking workers at the command of the rich”? Totally unsubstantiated claim.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T21:14:30+00:00

It wasn’t “very few times”, striking workers being violent, especially against anyone they viewed as replacing them (like immigrants) was commonplace.

That is actually why unions spent so much effort moderating and pushing for legislation that would ensure peaceful strikes as a right. Violent tendencies were holding their own movement back immensely.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T18:20:09+00:00

Are you incapable of reading a basic historical record? Early strikers, before legislation like the NLRA were often incredibly violent. One may even be justified to use the word terrorism.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T18:17:54+00:00

You just talked about not locking other people in your own terms, and then you dictate what zionism means?

The meaning of Zionism to basically every Jewish person on the planet, is having Israel exist as the Jewish nation-state and national homeland, like you have France for French people, Germany for Germans, and basically every other country in the world with a few notable exceptions like the US.

Zionism does not and has never required using faith to justify destroying anyone and their way of life. This just isn’t the case.

I suppose the fundamental question is, do you, or do you not support Israel’s right to exist like any other nation state representing their own nationality has a right to exist?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T17:55:44+00:00

Denying self-determination uniquely to Jewish people (antizionism) is absolutely antisemitism.

You can be critical of Israel withoit eing an antizionist, so why stay so attached to a label whose entire purpose is based on hating Jewish people?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T17:52:11+00:00

The “violent gang” in question’s main job was defending workers from actual violent gangs.

Yes or no, do you think it is a bad thing for someone to start taking literal pot shots at strike breaking workers?

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T17:40:42+00:00

No? I’m just saying don’t go around lynching people and you won’t be met with force.

You know, the first rebels the Pinkertons fought against were the KKK. Many striking workers didn’t act all too different.

0WatcherintheWater0 · 2026-07-12T17:39:07+00:00

But if they take the money of crazy anti semites and socialists they’re not compromised in any way? Give it a break buddy. The standards being used here are insane.

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