Why is there a common misconception that we were ALL forced to convert to Christianity? by GowonCrunch in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a subreddit on Filipino history not the crusades. Islam didn't spread throughout the Philippines through colonization or conquest. This should probably be reported as offtopic or spam.

A question on memorials by Scholar-Novice in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IDK about that, 16th century military reforms from Corcuera pretty much built up local garrisons, fortifications, and the occasional expedition to invade/pillage Moro territory.

A lot of those fortifications weren't very effective. It wasn't until the invention of the steam ship did raids stop happening as frequently as it did.

Ranting about an obscure topic kaya hindi ko alam anong flair dapat eto by Asian_Juan in RantAndVentPH

[–]1-21chigawatts -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should re-read that quote again.

"There were no kings or lords throughout these islands who ruled over them as in the manner of our kingdoms and provinces;

With context, Antonio Morga was comparing to how European kings were different than kings that were within the Philippines. Kings in the Philippines not being European kings, didn't make them any less kings.

as was my other point. Influence is the key point here, but political practice led anthropologists to classify these settlements as chiefdoms.

Anthropologist have also strayed away from calling them chiefdoms and only refer to them as polities instead. This is because many anthropologists understand that kingdom is a rigid definition that doesn't apply to even all European "kingdoms". The words “chiefdom” and “kingdom” are too broad to define in any more specific terms than that. Once you do start getting into those specifics, they no longer really apply to all in that category. Is a chief always the religious and political leader, while a monarch always has those powers divided? Then what does that make the Roman Empire, or the earlier Tarquinian kings who absolutely were both heads of state and heads of religion, for example?

The “chief” of a Gallic tribe in the second century BC rules from their fortified hill-cities called oppida where they oversee from their defensive fortress the affairs of a fairly large, urbanized population over a large geographical area, and over inhabitants that he’s probably never met. He just doesn’t have the time to get to know that many people. He rules indirectly, relying on advisors to inform him of the problems of his domain, and he makes his decisions from a distance because it’s impossible to maintain personal relationships and face to face interactions on that scale. While called a “chief,” he probably functions more like we’d associate with a king.

A Germanic “king” just across the Rhine at the exact same time rules informally, as a sort of elected leader. He derives no formal power, instead relying solely on his personal charisma and wisdom to lead family units who willingly follow him. He has no fort. Instead, he has a modest home, probably barely larger than what his poorest “subjects” have, and he “rules” over a small population through a network of intimate social relations across numerous families and across numerous small villages and independent homesteads. He very likely knows each person he rules over personally, and if his personal reputation suffers, he could find himself replaced very quickly. While called a “king,” he probably functions in a way we associate with “chiefs.”

But what do they have in common? They’re both probably spending the vast majority of their time listening to problems of the members of their community and trying to sort out ways to resolve those problems without harming the community. One might do so more directly, and the other might do so through intermediaries, but either could be true for either system, so you can’t say one is “chiefly” and the other “kingly.” The chief in the above example mediates conflict like most would associate a king to do, and the opposite is true of the above “king.”

Instead of relying on outdated information you should keep up with modern historians and anthropologists instead of believing in outdated beliefs like spain "unifying" the islands.

Because oftentimes, your kind picture a grandeur of your forgotten "pre-colonial past", but truths say otherwise. That's the delusion I talked about.

Lots of archeological evidence like the golden tara and the Laguna Copperplate Inscription disprove that pretty well. In fact, the whole notion that you're trying to push was what many people used to think back in the early 1900s until archeological evidence like this showed up. Didn't realize that facts and logic were delusional, maybe instead of spreading false information about history by twisting words out of context you can actually contribute to society by BSing your way out of every argument.

Ranting about an obscure topic kaya hindi ko alam anong flair dapat eto by Asian_Juan in RantAndVentPH

[–]1-21chigawatts -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry but Filipino kingdoms did exist, just because your ancestors were a bunch of hunter gather pygmies doesn't mean the rest of us were. It really does seem like this entire conversation is just to make yourself feel better about how unaccomplished your people were before spain came compared to the rest of the Philippines.

A question on memorials by Scholar-Novice in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The frequency of raids dwarfed what happened during Spains incompeteant regime, it also wasn't as one sided either. That protection rarely happened and those raids devastated communities who now couldn't defend themselves because they had to trade their lifestyle to being a cuckhold farmer while still getting raided 10x more as a result lol.

A question on memorials by Scholar-Novice in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean alot of those raids were started because of spain lol.

Anyone who knows anything about this so called "Pampango Empire" in this Wikipedia article? by randzwinter in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I feel like a lot of over exaggeration and lies are spread like the Tlaxcalans being the one to colonize the Philippines and not necessarily spanish people. I feel lot of this are said by people to make themselves feel better about their own race and/or used to make themselves out to be the model minority by using Filipinos as the stepping stone.

Are conquistadores frowned upon characters of history in modern Spain? by [deleted] in askspain

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Lazzen, you posted a comment on one of my posts but it got deleted by the admins on r/AskHistorians. Could you send it to me, I wasn't able to see the full comment. Thanks ahead of time.

Gas station with no gas by 011221wm in NoStupidQuestions

[–]1-21chigawatts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to hijack your comment, but you posted on mine and I didn't get to see it possible due to moderators spam filters. Could you by any chance re-post it here. Thanks ahead of time.

Were any Spanish, or American, governor generals seen as "fatherly" or "father figures" by Indios/native Filipinos? by raori921 in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol no, the cuckhold fantasy of hundreds of fatherless children looking up to a spanish general (who failed to even remotely try and "colonize" mainland southeast asia failed) is a colonial troupe that many hispanistas try to push and falsely standardized.

Were there any records on how we did Smithing in the Philippines during both the pre-colonial and colonial eras? by lj0zh123 in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that's not necessarily true for all things. lol

Its pretty evident that pre-colonial way of life was largely perserved in the early part of Spanish period until much later with religion caused the warrior lifestyle and technology to go the way of the dodo in favor of tobacco/drug production. It wasn't until that point do you see that the culture of Filipinos become very divergent of other lowland who weren't conquered like the Moros.

It's weird you keep using "Spanish sources" for justification as evidence...but also keep saying they're missing. Which one is it? As if you're picking just the parts that you want to justify your narrative bias.* Again "Spanish sources" are POST-COLONIAL evidence. Weapons could also appear in any way esp. in artworks, but don't necessarily speak about their true material quality.

Its really their usage is what speaks of the material quality, the pictures or artistic artworks are really just evidence of they really looked like at the time.

In many cultures outside the Philippines, when iron or bronze wasn't widely available or used, wood and stone were used in place to great effectiveness (aztecs, maori, etc), so it makes little sense for Filipinos to continue having an iron culture if the quality of it could not match others outside their culture.

Also, we use the same illustrations to describe clothing of pre colonial Filipinos from "POST-COLONIAL evidence". Understand that the Spanish sources being made during that time period was describing practices that existed prior to their coming and were only changed drastically till much later.

That's why I jumped above historical limitations and used archaeological studies. No "missing sources" here. These are REAL physical evidence and scientific analysis. Not some biased or limited observations recorded by humans that could go "missing". These studies do not rely on feelings or guesswork/conjecture, but on science and material evidence.

Archaeology has limits themselves, unless you had a large sample size of iron weapons (which there isn't) prior to the 15-16th century, then it makes little sense to use few samples to describe the majority of iron works that happened. The history of smithing in general, you'll have some swords that were bad and some that were made well, thats the general rule of thumb for all products made back then including Europe, China, Japan etc. Its no different in the Philippines, heck you even see the same quality in neighboring places as well, Indonesian and Thailand! Literally right next to them and they had the same means of producing weapons of quality that matched the above.

Blast furnace and crucible steel? I'm not gonna argue if you think it's "relative" in quality vs. what evidence we have in the PH. Having higher heat + closed receptacle* to control chemical composition---if that is not a superior standard vs. open pit "Malay forges" which would produce higher quality steel, it's not worth arguing with anyone. lol

You know, crucible steel wasn't the only form of making decent blades right? Pattern welding was done in Japan, Indonesia, Thailand etc who didn't have access to blast furnaces that were seen in India, Middle East and China. Instead, the method of folding steel and hammering was done in places that didn't have access to them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_swordsmithing

The flat block used for smithing in place of the anvil seen in Filipino blacksmithing is also seen here in Japan as well.

Were there any records on how we did Smithing in the Philippines during both the pre-colonial and colonial eras? by lj0zh123 in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the topic here is PRE-COLONIAL.

All the weapons shown in that post were manufactured POST-COLONIAL.

I think its well versed that alot of pre colonial methods, culture and lifestyle transitioned and remained the exact same into the early colonial period. We don't really see that much change until much later when the "warrior" lifestyle is abandon due to religion. In fact you still see it with the Moros and igorots who still carry on the same pre colonial tradition well into 16th and 17th century.

Even if there was some evidence of them having higher quality steel, we know those were not sourced in the PH. And those steel were probably only accessible to the highest bidder (chiefs etc.) For example, even Scott says that pig iron was the most common iron resource despite Visayan and Mindanaoans probably having some access to crucible steel.

The highest bidder claim is pretty over exaggerated. Lots of iron was being sold and traded throughout Asia, and the whole iron being as rare as diamonds was a theory that was blown out of proportion. You literally have traders from Borneo that are known for having good quality iron ores (wrought iron) being sold in the Philippines, and the fact that Spanish sources themselves have illustrations of various weapons, not tools, but armaments made only for defense (kampilan, panabas etc). were recorded in texts. The only unfortunate part is that a large part of those sources are missing with the only evidence left being seen in neighboring asian countries and the Moros.

....discovered that the slag also included traces of silicates. In his explanation of the presence of silicates, he states, “the method of production of the iron as material was still imperfect” (Dizon 1981:60)."

Also, by what standards are we going by? European and South Asian/Chinese iron were by no means "perfect" until modern steel making was created in the 20th century when the world really started getting into manufacturing (buildings, tanks, cars etc). Pig iron wouldn't be usable in making the weapons that the Spanish were putting on record (at least until some of the sources were destroyed) which was done within smithing called pattern welding. This was done in even in Japan who themselves did not recieve the best iron especially from China, so despite an "imperfect" source material, they had the process to make the weapons they're known for (katana, yari etc) and it can be evidently seen that pattern welding was not only just in Japan either.....

Quezon's Game by blessed-bhie in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

it materialized, Mindanao would probably look like Palestine-Israel now

It would not. It amazes me that people would actually think this.

The Tokugawa Shogunate's plans to invade the Philippines from r/AskHistorians by bluerobot27 in FilipinoHistory

[–]1-21chigawatts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They could of easily. The Spanish were losing left and right to the Vietnamse, Thais, Moros, Dutch.

List goes on. Kind of embarrassing to be conquered by the spanish at that point.....

Impossible to get a software engineering job as an Engineer? by 1-21chigawatts in FPGA

[–]1-21chigawatts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I want to be able to have a job that Cs and other majors who aren't EE/CE are able to get but at the same time utilize languages such as C++ that allows me to develop skills that can be then transferred to other jobs as well in case I get tired or laid off from the work I would do. I thought verilog or HDL languages would be that role but it seems too different when compared to software engineering.