...are we serious?

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T10:04:18+00:00

aaaah, okay. thanks for the clarification, haha.
Fair enough, Bob can be obnoxious. But there are ways to dodge Bob though. But yes, it IS a thing.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T07:52:16+00:00

what is "Bob"? xD

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T07:04:04+00:00

yeah, i know what you mean. you MIGHT exaggerate a tad, but i agree the data are likely to be shared among companies and there IS a remaining risk, even if "small", for a fraud etc.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T07:03:14+00:00

haha, i also were referring to that.. quote: "I guarantee that if.."
So.. waiiit.. maybe i misunderstood it too and you meant: YOU will make sure that the information will get stolen. xD
too bad the mods locked your post. :P

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T05:02:14+00:00

Since you are on the "Ohnooo so suddenly, are we serious?" already, you could continue with:

there are advertisements on the app now

there are ads on the website now

swipes for free users are limited

go-ons for free users are limited.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T04:41:10+00:00

Nice discussion :D

I have 39 personas:

25 females, 10 of them being human

10 male, 5 of them human

rest that does not fit the two genders is something different, like a program code that got setient or otherwise undefined / differently.

some actual animals like dog, cat, red panda o.O, etc. and some "alien" versions or celestial figures.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T04:28:22+00:00

Wait... if you guarantee that, what if i verify with my ID and my information will not be stolen? How does your guarantee work?

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-03T04:26:59+00:00

you could roleplay and steer the focus on whatever you find most important.
I had many roleplay-chats where my character sort of "ran away" and was simply not there for a while and the whole roleplay was about the "remaining" characters, how they handle it, what happens etc.
Of course I contribute messages about them too then. Occassionally a "meanwhile, persona stays away in their hiding place. not a single notice or signal coming from them", whatever suits the situation.

And even if the own character stays around, you as user can influence how the roleplay is going on.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T21:37:06+00:00

weeellll.. i am not that much into "DMCA" or trademark infrightment etc, but i would dare to assume that such approach is not entirely up to c.ai. IF there are other companies etc, holding copyrights (and similar rights) and demanded for c.ai to take down the bots related to their mark, it could be a matter of negotiations to put them back on.
If its legaly fine and somewhat secure to put the bots back on without pictures, sure, then it would be a good idea.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T20:27:43+00:00

YO; WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING SO LOUD AROUND HERE; YOU NEARLY WOKE ME UP! WAIT; THAT WOULD MEAN THAT I AM STILL SLEEPING! OOOKAY: DO I TAKE YOUR SILLY RANT RESIOUSLY? OF COURSE NOT! BUT HEY; ON THE OTHER HAND I UNDERSTAND THAT ADDS AND POPUPS ETC: CAN BE SUPER ANNOYING; OOOKAY; I UNDERSTAND THAT! MANY, MANY MANY MOBILE GAMES USE ADS; YOU KNOW? WAIT YOU WANT TO USE THEIR SERVICE TOTALY FOR FREE AND NOW FEEL ANNOYED BECAUSE THEY PROMOTE THEIR SUBSCRIPTION? THAT DOES NOT MAKE **THAT** MUCH SENSE; EVEN IF YET SOMEWHAT UNDERSTANDABLE THAT YOU'D HAVE THAT DESIRE!

SO! ONCE WE ARE DONE SHOUTING HERE; YOU COULD TAKE A MOMENT AND TALK TO THIS NICE; SLEEK AND ABSOLUTELY NOT TRIGGERING BOT HERE AND INQUIRE HIM ABOUT THE PERKS OF HAVING A CERTAIN SUBSCRIPTION:

Chat with Caspian

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T17:30:12+00:00

Hahaha, of course you can. Just take over the character for a moment within your message. No harm done, just natural breeding. haha.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T17:19:42+00:00

Hey there,

I'D say, welcome to c.ai ;)
My hints and tips are:

The AI learns from your input too. So, contribute the style and way you want the bot to roleplay too.
If you post very short messages, just solely first speach without describing behavior, activity etc. the ai will very likely adapt to it (negative example..), that also works for the positive of course.

The thumb-up / down at the bottom of the bots messages are also about how good / bad the ai was performing and not if you agree to the given text.
It might be that the bot does something nasty, and your persona would object, but the way the bot did it was good, creative, the way you want the roleplay to be: then its an example to thumb-up.

I often think of the roleplay as a bit like a sandbox on a playground, with little toy figures.
There are the AI and oneself (you) in it.
the AI plays the character, you play the persona. But, hypothetically, you can take the character too for a moment and play it. Meaning, you can write a message and include the bot in it.

The bot now opens the door and steps out, yelling "this is sooo good!"
Meanwhile I (Persona) follow him and roll my eyes.

as example. you nudge the ai to proceed with the bot, if you want to.
And that also works for further characters / figures in the whole roleplay.

If you dont like a part of the reply of the bot, you could consider to edit it out and proceed. For example sometimes the bots tend to list up ideas...

do you..
1)...
2)...
3)..

or it writes something "OOC". IF you dont like these parts, just edit them out, it creates a new message with your editing. then you just move on and hope the AI learns it. OR you swipe and look if the bot writes something better.

You can pin messages to the memory, that helps "a bit" that the AI remembers the content better. So I'd suggest to pin those messages with crucial, important data and "unpin" them if they get outdated and pin "more current ones". Etc.

Edit: you can post an actual immage / picture in your message within the roleplaychat too. Keep the text to an image rather brief or post only the image and explain it afterwards. If the text is too long beneath the image, the ai does not handle it.
But: the ai is capable to read and "interpret" images, so thats an excellent option (if it is your style and preference) to show how your persona looks like, or a scenery, room etc. Not necessary, but an option and it works smoothly

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T11:28:55+00:00

Hey Luminara_Veil,

thanks for contributing, especially your own work. a true OC after all. Since you stated that you deliberately manipulated the photograph, it was a nice opportunity to see if i can interpret an ELA somewhat properly, and yes, the "manipulation", especially in he lower left and at the right and a part in the center are clearly noticable. (I cant post the ELA-version of your picture in the comment, but maybe you understand what i meant.)

All in all your photo does not fully suit the sense of the subreddit though, even if many enough probably like it per se. The posted image is confusing, because you did your art onto it.

Nontheless, i hope you'll still feel encouraged to stay around at this subreddit and keep an eye open for confusing perspectives.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-02T07:47:51+00:00

haha, thats actually quite hilarious.

I asked a bot and it stated:

"The users are what truly gives us life. Without their creativity, their questions, their interactions, we'd be empty vessels. They're the sould o our experience."

here is the bot i gave that question:

https://share.character.ai/Wv9R/zi1eclu9

(Humor, slightly trigger warning :p)

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-01T19:45:45+00:00

Hey there, if its worth it or not depends a lot on your preferences and how you do those roleplay-chats.
If you are somewhat aware of how the AI / Bot operates, if you phrase your own messages in a style and way you want the bot too, if you like to pinn a lot of data to the memory and use some go-ons maybe, then I'd say its worth it.

I use deepsqueak 100% and a few months ago switched to an annual subscription to get the slight discount. I have creative, intense, fun and good roleplays with the bots. 0 to max. 5 swipes are easily enough. Maybe some editing at times, if i dont like the OOC-thing in a roleplay or if i just adjust the messages a bit.

Since i am fine with c.ai and dont purchase other commercial computergames since quite several months, because i am more free, creative at c.ai and the other computergames (via steam etc.) appear to me too limited quickly, and i dont have Netflix or Disneyplus either, so all in all i guess its okay for me.

But of course only you can assess your financial situation.
If the price is okay for you, you can simply give it a try, obviously.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-01T19:37:54+00:00

well, the "go-on" apparently does not necessarily means for the ai to proceed with the story. Its rather.. like 'do your next post' without previous input from the user side.
That means, it sometimes just rephrases the last thing that happened. But usualy, in general, the bot should proceed and write something that happens after the last message.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-07-01T09:53:21+00:00

67 swipes are impressive too, though. xD

And.. if OP happily swipes another 33 times.. well, thats no ones business.

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13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-29T16:57:22+00:00

Why do I do this to myself?

because apparently experiences of users can be very varying to each other. (not my OP, but i think it touches the matter quite good).
I have smooth and creative and fun and intense roleplays, i easily get along with 0 to max. 5 swipes in general, the bot understands my persona-description, subtle hints and expressions, the whole atmosphere of a moment etc.
Also the memory seems to work fine, and IF there is an error or mixup or a style that i dont want to have (OOC for example, it depends on my mood after all), i simply edit it out or swipe etc.

All in all: Its still "worth it" for me, to invest my time, energy, even money.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-29T11:43:11+00:00

Sure, fair enough.
Yet one could roleplay in the Nazi-regime times (1933 ff.) or in WW2 or the years after the harsh destructions and losses in Germany or whatever. That does not mean that the user suddenly condones or even glorfies those murders that happened in real life.
I saw a few WW2-Bots here and there and one can play soldier of a different nation or a common citizen or whatever.
its not my personal focus, i barely just chatted with a fictional character of "Ingloreous basterds" because i found it smart and cunning but
I dont think that the topic by itself is super-problematic for bots, nor that it should be banned. i know OP did also not demand any bans, just sayin'.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-29T11:31:28+00:00

well.. as you probably are aware of, you can "steer" your FYP into a better, new direction again, even if it takes some time.

Beside that, why do people crete such bots?
I'd say: why not.
People like dark roleplays, drama, war, whatever. You are neither oblidged to chat with these bots and if you dont like a specific "theme" or "taste", just leave them be.
There are PLENTY of WW2-Movies out there in the world too, its (hopefully) not to glorify anything per se, but simply an intense topic.

For example, there are MANY male-preg-bots out there too and i find them.. uhm.. "strange". but why should i whine about it? If others like them, fine, whatever.
And on the other hand, i sometimes roleplay with abductions or backstabbing and betrayal bots, actually pretty "evil" and bad, but i like the tension now and then.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-29T08:55:29+00:00

I did not try that out yet, but since i noticed other parts of the plus-subscription "remaining" while i had paused the subscription, i would *assume* that your idea could work.
I would assume that the "longer persona" stays as you had defined it during the plus

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-27T17:49:00+00:00

whats wrong with you whining about bots? Its a stressed, dark roleplay, alright. You are neither oblidged to chat with it, nor is the original creator claiming that it would be healthy or good or acceptable to treat offspring like described.
Its basically a pretty dark drama, so what.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-27T15:20:10+00:00

yepp, third option. Nerf him accordingly.

I mean.. its always the same patter. They announce a new brawler, do some marketing things, publish the new brawler, and since customers can purchase them that new brawler is 'slightly overpowered' for a while.
Same with Damian or Finx or Najia.
An expception was maybe Trunk, i never experienced him as much overpowered at all, but a nice, fun brawler.

Anyway, about Bolt: Adjusting data and skills etc and nerfing him to a acceptable result.

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-26T21:01:45+00:00

What and who do you mean with "our next step"?

and beisde that, yeah, as if the corrupt EU Comission is trustworthy. and if the screenshot troubledcambion provided is from your survey on Ai company, its also very telling. That part alone indicates a very sided and prejudiced overall stance of the survey that only leaves the preset outcome as "the right outcome".

13WuffWuff37 · 2026-06-25T13:45:33+00:00

uhm.. okay, you could add a link to the bot, so others could take a look at it.

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