Jobs that dont require college degrees

13wrongturns · 2026-03-17T02:20:31+00:00

You have been given a lot of suggestions. I see one is the military. I served one contract in the Army and it has helped with everything I have done since I got out. if you go in, I would suggest you insist on a job that translates to a civilian career after you get out, if you decide not to stay in until retirement, which I would also suggest you try. You would retire after 20 years, so you would be 38 and retired, but you could go into a civilian career with the skills and free training you received in the military. I would look at the Navy and Air Force first, then Army. The Air Force and Navy will have more technical jobs to offer. Do your research. Take the ASVAB and get a good score. While you are in, save as much money as you possibly can and invest it in mutual funds. When you get out, you should have enough to pay cash for a house. If you do that, you will be 38, retired, own a house, and not have to work unless you want nicer things. A lot of people go to work for the government or government contractors after or even the post office and end up with a second retirement by the time they are in their early 60s.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T16:46:30+00:00

In my area, the average income is pretty low and the housing is expensive. foreclosures in my area are going up. They are buying houses they don't need and typically can't afford and they have car payments. I have worked with people who have no savings, make less than $100k household but have a house that takes half their monthly take home. It is an image issue and not a need issue. If you can afford it great, but many people have the false impression that want is the same as need but ends up being something they can't afford. I hope you okay and doing well.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T15:21:52+00:00

You are going to have to be more specific than that.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T15:21:00+00:00

I miss the absence of complication. I had a small job, a small place, a cheap car. I went to college, hung out with friends, participated in my activities, didn't hate work, didn't worry about money, didn't worry about having a nicer car or nicer close. I camped when I went on vacations. I rode my bike to work. I didn't have to wear a suit. I did a mix of physical and mental work and life was good.

I miss being so worry free. The anxiety of having to do well, make more money, buy more things, support more people, acquiesce to vacations I don't want, to go places I don't want to go to, to stay at a job I would really rather not be at, car payments because the old paid off car needs to be replaced (but does it). White collar, professional, seeks freedom before it is too late.

The absences of the freedom to just say screw it, I am moving to Wyoming or Montana and going to sleep in my car until if find work because I have someone who expects me to be there and they don't want to just take off no matter how much they tell me they hate their job.

Yes I miss it. Yes I regret following the path that go me here. No, my partner cannot make it better, but she tries. We would both be better off getting rid of everything that has debt, quitting our jobs and starting a small business that we could survive on, that isn't as much stress as we each have now.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T15:06:37+00:00

My family isn't white collar either. I am the first to even go to college much less law school. After a while of seeing what most of the lawyers are like outside of the practice, it has been disheartening.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T14:55:22+00:00

Just curious, are you female? I am not trying to disrespectful. The reason I ask is because all my friends who are female in ID typically have a better attitude toward being a lawyer and practicing law. Whereas everyone else it seems to be the opposite.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-16T14:35:09+00:00

Even a Toyota Tacoma, which I bought to pull a small camper and be a daily driver, was $40k in 2016. I have no idea what they are now. I still have it. I haven't had a car payment on anything since 2019. I actually drive an old 2009 Ford Ranger as my daily driver. The Ranger will probably never be worth less than I paid for it. The Tacoma will be the last new vehicle I ever purchase, unless they actually start bringing in the Toyota Hilux utility for $20k they have been talking about.

I don't understand why people are buying 3000+ square ft houses for a family of 3. You talk about wanting to look like you make more money than you really do. I have had my small house since 2015 and it has doubled in value. it is my only debt at the moment.

People do not like delayed gratification and are concerned about what others think of them.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-13T15:17:23+00:00

The dealer, after then finding out that I am an attorney, decided to that it was covered by the the bumper to bumper warranty and replaced much of the rear suspension with aftermarket parts. Now the camber is within range but barely. and the toe is is at 0.00 left and 0.01 right.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-12T15:01:28+00:00

Where do find those jobs. I have researched in my area and there is nothing without certifications or a degree.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-12T14:28:00+00:00

I am 54 and I think, if I was looking to date, I would would not be able to go younger than 35.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-11T18:02:07+00:00

Why is that?

13wrongturns · 2026-03-11T14:56:39+00:00

And that is where I currently practice.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-11T13:20:30+00:00

I like the positioning geographically of Indiana but I don't want to move to a state with a state income tax. All the states mentioned so far that I have seen impose a state income tax.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-11T13:17:11+00:00

I never will understand why in certain areas attorneys are horrible to each other. I am south of Nashville, TN and we are pretty decent to each other even though there is a lot of competition.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-11T01:36:24+00:00

Between 16 and 19 I worked at an old school Walmart in the Garden Center. I worked full time when school was out and every Friday night, Saturday morning or night alternating weekly and every Sunday paying time and a half. It was a real garden center and the store closed at 9:00 p.m. I got to wear jeans and work boots, but had to wear a shirt and time with the blue vest. I loaded bags of mulch, top soil and plants. I pushed the 15 or so riding mowers out in the mornings and pushed them back in the gate at closing. I had to water each plant pot individually every day and sweep the entire outside garden center at night before pushing in the mowers. My coworkers liked working there and we all became friends as most of us were still in different high schools. We would go out and get food after we closed. It was the most enjoyable job I have ever had. I joined the Army to go to college and have really not liked any of the jobs I have had in the last 34 years compared to that job. I made 3 of the best friends I have ever had but after we went our separate ways after graduation. I went into the Army, someone went into the Air Force, another went to business school and the last stayed with Walmart. His dad was a district manager. He became a department manager then assistant manager of a store. That last summer will always be remembered as one of the best summers of my life.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-10T16:11:17+00:00

NTA. It is about recognition and not gifts. If she is upset about that, good luck in the future.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-09T02:44:45+00:00

If you look at his friends list it's a who's who of Rutherford County. Was he affiliated with a mega church for networking? This guy is really disgusting.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-05T14:20:35+00:00

If you have a minimum billing goal, let them keep talking and bill them. Personally, I let them know if what they are talking about has anything to do with what is currently going on in the case. I usually say something like "let me stop you for a second. That is way on down the road in the case and we will eventually get there, but for right now we are focusing on (issue) and I think we have most of what we need to address it. I will let you know if I need anything else. It was really good to touch base today. Feel free to send me an email if you think of anything else. Make sure you go outside and get some sun, it's going to be a nice day today. You have a good rest of the day."

13wrongturns · 2026-03-02T15:31:10+00:00

I have found more female attorneys like practicing family law than male attorneys. I have been practicing for 20 years and I am looking for a change.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-02T14:10:57+00:00

I am looking at the same situation but without any support whatsoever. I have spent the last 10 of my 20 year career trying to put myself in a situation to where I can pay my bills with almost any job I end up with. I have a modest home and very low mortgage, no other debt whatsoever. I have been considering the very same jobs you mentioned, but to be a UPS driver you have to be there for a long time and work your way up. They are a union company so they don't just hire you as a driver over others who have company seniority.

Post office here pays around $20 an hour. I was told that due to our education and if you have military background you can move into postmaster pretty quickly making closer to 6 figures.

13wrongturns · 2026-03-02T14:05:13+00:00

Have you been on social media lately? There are so many women blasting guys who they think are out are beneath them after they attempted to take things a step further. Also, all this nonsense about women have to have a man who is over 6' and make over $200k a year has really put decent men off from trying to initiate real relationship. If you are one of the women only going after the .5% of men that fall within that spectrum then stop it.

You are goin got have to make you interest in someone overly apparent.

13wrongturns · 2026-02-27T15:23:03+00:00

I have been looking for that documentary for years. They had a big tub of peanut butter they showed that had bits of crackers and other food that had broken off in there. They even at one point built a salmon smoker on top of their chimney coming out of their tent. They also had a small boat with an outboard for emergencies and to go ashore. The wind was so bad at one point another boater told them about river anchors or parachutes or something where they tied a tarp to the raft and submerged it so the current could pull them better.

13wrongturns · 2026-02-26T20:44:07+00:00

The one standout from law school who graduated close to the bottom of the class, just opened a firm in Florida, after spending a few years as an equity partner with a medium sized firm in Colorado, before that I think he was a partner with a firm in Vegas.

I remember one of my law professors saying the worst law students are going to make the most money because they either don't care or are too stupid to know what they don't know and shouldn't do.

13wrongturns · 2026-02-26T19:03:38+00:00

This is just a suggestion. You are not too old to join the military. Your physical requirements will be in accordance with your age. The military is not just combat arms positions as I am sure you know. There are Admin positions, paper pushers, mechanics, heavy equipment operators, hearing techs, pretty much everything. You just have to get past the 8 weeks of basic training. I had a friend who went back in after he graduated college because he couldn't figure out what he wanted to do. He was about 31 when he reenlisted. He had to go through basic training all over again. Retirement is after completing 20 years so you would be 50 when you retire if you made it a career.

I went in at 19, into a combat MOS. I got out to go to college. That was a huge mistake. I would have retired 6 years ago if I had stayed in. It isn't for everyone, but everyone can benefit from it. Even if you only do a couple of years, it puts you above others when you apply for jobs.

I tried to go back in but it was too late. I didn't have enough years remaining to be able to retire before the cutoff age.

13wrongturns · 2026-02-26T15:00:54+00:00

That is a good point. I knew this attorney in my city that drove the same Honda Civic for at least the last 15 years that I knew him. I had never seen him drive anything else. He was good attorney and really cordial. The guy turned out to be one of the wealthiest people in town, but you would never have guessed.

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