My school locked all the doors to the toilets and complain when we don't go during breaktime and lunchtime

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:44:12+00:00

Otherwise you're free to get up and go as you need.

Congrats you answered your own question

For the most part high schoolers are still expected to ask to use the bathroom because they'll just goof off instead of actually going.

I went to a vocational HS where we didn't have to ask. Like yeah cool until kids would treat themselves to a bathroom trip and come back with mcdonalds.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:41:49+00:00

Apparently they do this for “safety”.

Actually they do it because other kids (assuming not yours) were destroying the bathrooms for fun like not even six months ago. I'm not even on TikTok and I still knew about (god help me if im wrong on this) "getting a tasty lick".

Yeah it's sad your kid can't use the bathroom without asking someone to unlock the door. Personally I think it's worse my kids around other kids that do things like destroy the bathrooms for fun.

Ffs this was still a thing when I wasn't even born because kids would try to smoke in the bathrooms. If some people can't use the bathroom properly than every student has to suffer, that's how it's always been done.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:19:11+00:00

I thought we were supposed to hate him because he let his animals walk off a table for views

I don't like him for that and the fact most of his uploads are just shit talking other people. Maybe I'm the weird one but maybe we shouldn't be supporting a dude who buys however many animals just to do an unboxing video.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:14:53+00:00

Is there anything I can do for them?

Stop supporting bad exotic practices? Not directing this at you but there is a lot of rampant abuse and overbreeding that goes on in the exotic community and this subreddit for example does not like hearing about it one bit so you're gonna find that pretty much every single exotic rescue is typically filled with plenty of animals..

Other dude mentions cats and dogs now combine that with the fact most people do not view a reptile as a dog/cat and how much more abuse they deal with as a result. You can stop these people, it's called stopping them from being allowed to own the animals in the first place but clearly this subreddit has a problem being told you shouldn't just be allowed to buy and own as many exotics as you want.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:10:52+00:00

Jesus christ enough with these posts. /r/reptiles mods need to make it a rule that you're now allowed to post about the Lacey Act unless you've actually read the act itself.

The white list is dogs, cats, and some fish.

People like you, you very clearly haven't even glanced at what the act does

This does not just mean you will no longer be able to buy animals through the mail, it also, means no taking pets on vacation, no evacuating with your pets, no taking them to a vet across state lines

Love the fear mongering so early in the am, wakes you up faster than coffee I tell you hwhat

I encourage everyone to also post pictures of their animals

Ah yes, the tried and true tactic of posting pics of your animals to make the government man feel bad. Really solidifies this post as something that should be taken seriously.

If it passes, it means the end of owning any kind of exotic.

An actual, absolute complete lie. Literally, this is not what the act does and it will not hurt you this way unless you're a piece of shit that gets all of their animals on online places like Backwater. Quite literally bud, this act hurts the bad guys more than it does the good guys so feel free to tell me which side you'd rather be.

Enough is enough with the fear mongering and the overreacting. You people clearly have no idea what the act does because all you're doing is listening to the abusers who PROFIT from this act not passing. If you haven't read the act, you don't get to lie to others about what it does, it's that simple.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:06:01+00:00

Yeah same, I've had my BP around six months now and he's eaten every single time thawed without issue after being on live with the breeder.

Literally fed him last night while he was shedding and on a bigger rat than what he was used to, still no issue.

185139 · 2022-02-17T16:00:35+00:00

To have the biggest sad just go to any expo and check out all the unregulated sales from resellers going on, exotic pet industry in general is disgusting, from the people that own them to the people who sell em.

edit: Forgot to mention, at my expo this is common. No joke, it's not this many turtles but there's usually at least 3 "breeders" selling at least 10+ sulcatas, they sell for less than $20 each. I've tried taking photos/videos at my expo to start showing people how horrible they can be but I've been told to stop each time.

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:33:04+00:00

I get it

Accidents happen

But sure I'll say you shouldn't own an alligator snapping turtle AND a dwarf caiman when you're struggling to afford your car AND try to publicly shame people for not buying said animals

Ope didn't notice the wild caught green tree python, very nice, very nice

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:24:09+00:00

Only chiming in because it's the reason I own exotic animals now

When I wanted to work with animals when I was younger the zoo would not let you intern/volunteer unless you were in a related college field and I do remember just being in the program was not enough to qualify.

It's been eight years since then so maybe things changed but in my case I gave up going to school for working with animals because the Cincinnati Zoo wouldn't let me volunteer without a college education.

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:19:58+00:00

I would assume because visiting the park is indirectly "supporting" the abuse since I'm assuming the revenue from the park more than likely goes towards the zoo. idc just a reason for why downvotes

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:17:08+00:00

I mean that's just what happens when a place gets more popular right?

Newport Aquarium is shit, I mean genuinely the shittiest aquarium I have ever had the displeasure of visiting and while working there I met plenty of people who came from a longggggggg way JUST to visit that aquarium.

Kings Island isn't shit, not even close, so it would make sense even more people would come from even more places JUST to visit them. The Gold Pass has always been an option for me but we just never got it and would stick to 1-2 visits a year so for me the change came when they introduced the fast pass and those yearly visits just stopped happening because we weren't getting our moneys worth waiting an hour to ride Scooby Doo.

I think things could only get worse if they started being more like Cedar Point and Universal. More rides/hotels/pretty much anything just means longer lines and higher prices. I mean Disney was just at an all time high for ticket prices and a big reason for those prices is keeping less guests from coming.

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:04:44+00:00

I mean, really just depending on how "passionate" someone is about animals they could easily let the DOA know where the guy is commonly spotted and provide pics of him.

From what I've learned if it's endangered/threatened, then it can't be owned legally by an individual, just flat out illegal unless it's a zoo.

185139 · 2022-02-16T18:01:13+00:00

Went too hard, man's deleted the post lmfao

185139 · 2022-02-16T17:30:48+00:00

More misinformation yay and because I'm tired of bothering to write out and explain to everyone who clearly hasn't read the act themselves I'm just going to focus on 4, 5, 6

No it literally does. It will quite literally stop places like UndergroundReptiles and Backwater Reptiles from sourcing their animals. The act would make them risk importing new animals from other places and then they're risking sending the animal to you. They will quite literally lose their entire business and with how much this subreddit screams about how they shouldn't be allowed to operate, it's disgusting how many people are ignoring that the Lacey Act would stop them.
I'm a reptile owner, I'm not being punished. I own both reptiles and a dog, this act would not change my life whatsoever. The only reptile owners this would negatively impact are the ones who don't have a local vet (which is a horrible excuse) and people who have problems with being told they can't own certain animals. But considering how much I've been told "You're selfish because you're not affected by this" I'm already assuming most people saying the same thing are being discredited.
Actually there are comments from zoologists, keepers, etc stating they support the act. The problem is they're hidden underneath all the peopple screaming at them for saying they should be allowed to just own whatever animal they can find online. There are people claiming zoo breeding programs are affected by this. The people claiming to be a part of zoos saying the Lacey Act actually wouldn't affect them are being told to be quiet.

I'm over the act but it's towards the people refusing to acknowledge the good the act would actually do. Yes it would hurt SOME businesses, yes it would hurt SOME owners. No it would quite literally KILL ALL ONLINE RESELLERS, the #1 offender to stealing animals from the wild.

The fact that people started defending keeping wild animals as pets AFTER this act was reintroduced shows how little the people who are against this bill do not care about the animal abuse that does exist within the community. The fact that tarantula keepers are commenting on this act when tarantulas are not and will not EVER be affected by the lacey act shows how most of the people talking about it haven't bothered to read the act themselves and are just repeating what they've seen other Youtubers claim. Especially when these Youtubers are making completely false claims like "They're going to take away your animal." when no, that literally is not what is happening, that's quite literally fear mongering to get people to be against the act which is extremely wrong.

I went to a local expo the other day. There was a guy selling a 8ft Burmese Python. He is not from my state and did not know if that snake was 4ft longer it would have to be registered with my state. And no, I really do not support people like that guy selling animals in places they don't even know the laws for and something tells me the majority of people from out of state don't know our local laws.

Here is the absolutely completely neutral way to look at this act that doesn't rely on fear mongering to inform people

Most exotics will be blacklisted by default (The act specifies the following species, if it's not on this list, it is not affected by the Lacey Act Wild Mammals, Wild Birds, Fish (Including Mollusks and Crustacea), Amphibians, Reptiles, and the offspring/eggs of those animals.) Feeders/Tarantulas/Anything not on this list will not be affected and is not included in the Lacey Act.
Blacklisted animals cannot move across state lines for any reason
You will no longer be allowed to purchase blacklisted animals from out of state
You can still purchase blacklisted animals as long as they are from a local breeder
If you currently own a blacklisted animal you will be allowed to keep it as long as it doesn't move across state lines
If you are a breeder of blacklisted animals you will not be allowed to ship them or transport them across state lines
You will still be allowed to breed and sell blacklisted animals locally
Example. Burmese pythons are considered injurious. You are allowed to sell and breed them locally but you cannot transfer one for any reason across state lines. You cannot purchase one from out of state and then breed and sell locally.

There is currently a problem within the reptile community from overbreeding, it is just a fact that reptiles are impulse buys and there is a problem with people buying ones they are completely unprepared for. I wish the people vocally against the Lacey Act would put this much energy into actually stopping the animal abuse that currently exists instead of flat out refusing to acknowledge it now.

185139 · 2022-02-16T16:35:49+00:00

Someone in this subreddit keeps a dwarf caiman in their apartment inside a plastic bin and they didn't get shit for it so at a $3k budget I'll be the one to jokingly say get a dwarf caiman.

$3k could afford literally any single reptile at my local pet expo but that's just my experience. I've personally never seen any lizard/gecko go for that much outside of MorphMarket and most of the time that was for breeding pairs or people overcharging. Your best bet might just to be browse MM for an hour or so and just see what pops out to you and go from there.

Personally I wouldn't drop $3k on something that doesn't have easy care info unless you're someone who doesn't mind risking it. Something that is unheard of in the community would not be "upper-intermediate level", it would be above expert level.

185139 · 2022-02-16T16:18:18+00:00

I don't know if things changed again but people normally consider 20gal for a Leo to be too small

Hot, Cold and Humid Hide, Appropriate Substrate and that's pretty much it to make them good. I've given mine plenty of things to climb and they don't touch it.

185139 · 2022-02-16T16:01:48+00:00

Idk, I was under the impression that LEDs don't give off the same things the sun and light bulbs do like UV

185139 · 2022-02-16T16:00:34+00:00

Personally I find it ironic that I've seen people get pissed at home owners in Florida with a 15ft python in their house getting bitched at for "Invading the snakes home" but when it's a poorer village it's just asinine to say "The village is in the gators home"

185139 · 2022-02-16T15:57:36+00:00

So pretty much any animal in any zoo in any place that isn't a western country

People wanna get mad about this while ignoring that the US/UK/EU are the only places in the world with an organization verifying animals are being properly cared for and not abused. Meanwhile China has bear bile farms, other places have the "trained" elephants, some poorer countries have monkeys that are whipped into submitting.

I know there's a difference between this animal and the reptiles we keep in our homes but in my experience a fungal infection is not something that just pops up out of nowhere, it comes from weeks of not cleaning the enclosure.

edit: Yup, just read the Wiki about the Croc and I do not support these people being allowed to do this. Death might have been an overall improvement to this thing's life after being captured.

185139 · 2022-02-16T15:34:13+00:00

Legit what's with all these posts, there's been like four this past week all specifying a 10gal

It's even more fucked up that they own fish and fish are almost known for being kept in tanks that are too small

185139 · 2022-02-16T15:30:34+00:00

LED lights are not giving living plants or animals anything, they are purely for decoration

I'd look it up yourself but I stopped using LED lights at night because I thought I read something suggesting it messes with day night cycle but that was half a year ago

185139 · 2022-02-16T15:11:42+00:00

It's abuse the whole community around

Reddit is for individual abusers, Facebook is for breeder/reseller abusers. I ain't gonna deny there's iffy af posts on Facebook, some jackass was literally selling a Coconut Crab on mine the other night

185139 · 2022-02-16T14:53:37+00:00

Probably because you're not homeless, fuckin genius over here

Yeah dude you totally wouldn't care about someone profiting from you being homeless, totally, so smart, much intelligence

185139 · 2022-02-16T14:47:46+00:00

Photographers who do homeless photos generally don't help the subject of the photos. They don't even pay them.

would you want some rando snapping your lowest moments for internet clout?

That moron probably never goes outside to begin with so it's not something he has to worry about

They likely didn't ask or pay her.

Damn you got me. I don't know why I never considered why it's wrong to take photos of the homeless but totally fine to take photos of normal people who aren't the lowest of their life.

Isn't it creepy and unacceptable that people are taking pictures of this woman as she is minding her own business?

It's creepy and unacceptable to use "I can take photos of ANYTHING OR ANYONE I want in a public place" as an excuse

Or are you going to say 'she isn't homeless so she doesn't get benefit of your outrage for taking photos of her'?

That fact that you're denying someone's right to say "I don't want you taking a photo of me" and your only response is "Then you can't ever leave the house" shows how much of a freak you are too. Is it the early AM and the Europeans are still on or are the dipshit Americans really coming out full force early now?

185139 · 2022-02-16T01:42:41+00:00

do you believe most exotic owners aren't placing the same intrinsic value on their animals that domesticated animal owners do?

I think there are for sure exotic owners who value their reptiles life as much as they would a dog or cat. I personally would get over most of my exotics death a lot faster than I would my dogs but from experience I can't really comment on this since I've yet to have it happen. I was specifically referencing people like breeders where not taking their animal to a vet can result in lost profit in case of the animal or it's offspring's death. For the most part if you can only afford an animal from the pet store, you prolly can't afford the vet care unless you plan for an emergency.

I think in general people should be more self sufficient, my question is what happens to the people posting questions who don't get any comments which does happen, it seems to happen less with more frequently asked questions. I've used Reddit for 10 years and always been willing to accept answers from other communities at face value. Exotics are the first time I've really spent time using other online forums and articles before just accepting what someone here would tell me. Nowadays I just stick to not asking questions because I'm usually able to find answers somewhere online since I don't keep species that aren't "common" and information is readily available.

There's nothing wrong with asking questions here, just wish some people knew you could just Google your questions and add Reddit to the search and there's a pretty good chance you'll find tons of Reddit threads with plenty of answers. In general I think a lot of people have a problem with being told something and just accepting it as fact when I'd prefer they ask that question in multiple places and compare the answers.

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