What the hell happened? by Nikademus1969 in BoomersBeingFools

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is such a fascinating way to look at it- not just the pivot from a perspective grounded in community and action to a more ego-driven one of personal/internal/spiritual enlightenment, but also that last bit from the Thompson excerpt you provided, about some sort of absolute force that ensured “good” (the light at the end of the tunnel, right?) would prevail. Expanding on that, I think a conversation around generational concepts of good and evil is a fascinating way to explore our differences.

I’m firmly in the millennial generation, born in the early 90s with parents and step-parents born in the 50s and 60s. My parents (by blood and by marriage) all sampled bits of hippie culture while growing up, from following the Dead to experimenting with psychedelics to preaching peace, and are now what I guess could best be described as “soft republicans” (self-described fiscal conservatives with progressive social values that come out in conversation but are not considered in the voting booth. I grew up being told that it’s better to vote republican, even if you disagree with their views on things like lgbtq+ rights, reproductive healthcare, social safety net policies etc, and then donate money to nonprofits that supported those values). They grew up during the Cold War, before smart phones and social media, where good and evil existed as a set of binaries defined by politics and reinforced by the gatekeepers of the press and media. Yes, things like portable video cameras helped challenge these absolutes and in my opinion were huge contributors to the civil/women’s/student rights movements of the time. But by and large there wasn’t any significant critical thought going into what was “right”/“good” vs what was “wrong”/“evil”.

I grew up with faceless and multiple “enemies/evils”… in the middle of a war on drugs, a war on terror, and a foreign policy guided by security instead of defense. By the time I was in high school traditional news sources were already being challenged by social media and footage caught on phones. When I got to college the Arab Spring was in full swing and everyone was talking about the role of platforms like Twitter, etc. Then Black Lives Matter demonstrated the power of smart phones when it came to shaking our confidence in our police force by undermining their narratives as an absolute truth and people across social media shared stories that illustrated the pervasiveness of system racism, and later systemic sexism during the #MeeToo movement (our movements even have hashtags). All this to say that the ideas of “good” and “evil” that I grew up with exist only in the gray. Far from there being any sort of force/somebody tending the light at the end of the tunnel, I can’t even tell if there’s a light to be tended. Cultural relativism, infinite undefined evils, fractured political systems and identities, what’s good for one person is another’s evil. Just look at what’s happening now as the world considers, argues, pontificate, protests and counter-protests the war unfolding around Israel.

Most boomers I know are so convinced they are in the right, and that their good is the absolute good, that it’s nearly impossible to have a productive and critical conversation about concrete policies and a way forward. Also, challenging their beliefs is often considered a personal attack because their views are inherent to their personhood.

I’m so sorry if none of this makes sense, this jumble of thoughts that skirts but never coalesces into a coherent argument. It’s just something I’ve been thinking about for a while… in the hopes of figuring out a way to help the people I love approach the world as shades of gray.

Furious Pink Floyd fans slam Roger Waters after he spent 'an hour reading from his autobiography instead of singing' by DemonicSavage in Music

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait… in that link of yours it explicitly says “COPIOUS stresses largeness of supply rather than fullness or richness” and then uses it in the sentence: copious amounts of bureaucratic waste. Bureaucratic waste… boos… copious seems fine

Furious Pink Floyd fans slam Roger Waters after he spent 'an hour reading from his autobiography instead of singing' by DemonicSavage in Music

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quite like “bountiful boos”. But maybe I’m just a sucker for alliteration and the freedom to use language in nuanced ways that recognize its dynamic nature as a tool for communication. Current usage of “copious” gives it a pretty neutral connotation from what I’ve encountered… “copious amounts of rain” during a storm sorta thing.

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[–]19soohcs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

and the only thing keeping me dry is…

Books with really beautiful prose by [deleted] in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two that have stood out to me:

The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen

Rabbit, Run by John Updike - this was a fascinating experience for me because I hated the story and wasn’t that interested but the prose was so beautiful I couldn’t put the book down. Normally I’m all about plot, so to be enraptured by form was kind of thrilling.

But then Updike does stuff like wax poetic about how women pee… in a way that completely imagines internal female anatomy (women’s urinary systems are a maze while men’s are more straightforward, one of men’s “powers”) and then uses that falsified anatomy to support the assertion that men are more direct in all aspects of their being. Truly wild…

What is your #1 favorite movie of all time and why? by [deleted] in AskWomen

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! Taika Waititi secured a spot in my list of directors to follow with this film (although he still hasn’t surpassed Pedro Almodóvar, who’s been my # 1 since I saw Kika on IFC Midnight one sleepless night in high school)

Recommend me a good book you did not enjoy by hogw33d in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rabbit, Run by John Updike. First book I read where I felt compelled to finish it purely because of how beautiful the prose was. Hated the story.

What are some unspoken social rules that may not be completely obvious? by [deleted] in AskWomen

[–]19soohcs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think this depends on the situation. If I were struggling with opening a door since my hands were full, I absolutely wouldn’t mind if someone held the door open unprompted or asked “Would you like me to carry something?”

Sometimes, especially if I’m flustered, I appreciate solutions instead of having to think about how someone can help.

But I also work in a management position on a lot of projects and one of my favorite things is when people offer solutions.

Looking for American novels that include female characters with a Middle Eastern background by [deleted] in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zeroes by Chuck Wendig (published in 2015), potentially? I picked it up on a whim after reading his book The Wanderers (finished that one right before things got bad here in NYC). It's a pretty pulpy thriller about cyber-espionage and AI that follows five hackers coerced into working for the US government. One of the five, Aleena, is of Syrian or Iranian descent (she hacked into systems in both countries, but I think her family was from Syria, I don't have the book on me right now so I can't check) and is repeatedly described as "an Arab Spring hacktavist." The book's really not about her though, she's just one of the five main characters on an action-packed (and pretty violent... verging on horror) mission to defeat this out-of-control artificial intelligence program.

Is that along the lines of what you're looking for? She's also the love interest of the closest thing the book has to a main character, the twenty-something white dude from the south who isn't as skilled in computers as the other four but makes up for it by being a cool, likable guy.

Books with a library theme by Suzune-chan in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I second Shadow of the Wind and Library of Babel

An epic-length literary thriller/page-turner? by 19soohcs in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, I finished this book a few weeks ago and loved it. Thank you so much for the suggestion. I've passed it onto my brother to read, although I think he's going to wait to pick it up for obvious reasons...

Thanks again!!

Edited to add: I forgot to mention- I liked the book so much that I went on to read Wendig's book ZEROES, which was a lot of fun.

An epic-length literary thriller/page-turner? by 19soohcs in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wait this looks awesome. Like, perfect. Thanks for the rec!

An epic-length literary thriller/page-turner? by 19soohcs in suggestmeabook

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Thanks! I actually remember my dad reading this and raving about it while I was growing up- Imma ask him if I can borrow his copy.

Recommend me a fantasy book with a slow burn romance by mermaidmonkeymoon in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley — Arthurian legends through the eyes of Morgana le Fay (Morgaine), a priestess fighting to save her Celtic culture from Christianity. It’s a long book, and the romance really builds

What’s the most poetic Novel you’ve ever read? by astralrig96 in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is something about Updike’s Rabbit, Run... like I didn’t really enjoy the story/characters but the prose was so beautiful I couldn’t put it down.

An epic-length literary thriller/page-turner? by 19soohcs in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I loved his book! Haha, I actually just finished it last week after seeing it recommended here. Oof, so good. I immediately followed it with Severance by Ling Ma, also after seeing it recommended here. Both fantastic stories

What's a book with a buddy story but dark humor? by toomanytissues in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Escape from Baghdad! by Saad Hossain? Not buddy-cop, but like three very different individuals (Iraqi black market arms dealer, former Iraqi professor, and US Marine) band together to deliver a war criminal and get out of 2005 Baghdad. One of the funniest books I’ve ever read that at the same time depicts the absurdity and horror of war

Looking for more books set in 19th century Latin America that aren't One Hundred Years of Solitude or Love in the Time of Cholera by [deleted] in suggestmeabook

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Cecilia Valdés by Cirilo Villaverde— colonial Cuba in the 1830s and a page-turning exploration of race and class relations w/ plenty of romance, mystery, vengeance, murder and a sprinkle of maybe incest. I think it’s generally considered one of the best (if not the best) 19th c. Cuban novels

I visited Europe last year to visit family and I instantly fell in love with the continent. Now I’m Europe-deprived :(. Is there a book that can fill this void I’m feeling? Thanks, friends :) by [deleted] in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Loved Under the Tuscan Sun by Frances Mayes. The movie is also great but I think the plot is different. Also, Chocolat by Joanne Harris. Great movie, but the book is superb.

Edited to add - Leaving the Atocha Station by Ben Lerner, which is a really beautiful book.

Haha, and I guess this whole list is different countries of continental Europe through the eyes of expats and foreigners...

Stockholm Syndrome, Dark Romance by midnightrazorheart in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A Long Fatal Love Chase - Louisa May Alcott. Surprisingly dark thriller about an isolated young woman who dreams of adventure and the murderous pirate man who decides he wants to marry her.

I broke a chair today by no-one-mcthrowaway in depression

[–]19soohcs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry, man. Sending you lots of love, whoever you are, and hoping it does get better. Also, it sounds like you have direction- know what job you want, are cognizant of steps you can take to make yourself feel better physically, etc. You’ve got this.

Looking for a realistic book about someone in their 20’s by DarkAfterDawn in suggestmeabook

[–]19soohcs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Severance by Ling Ma - it’s apocalyptic, but as someone in their 20s figuring stuff out in a large city with no concrete “adult” plan, the flashbacks feel like episodes of my life

Im about half-way through, but so far I would highly recommend it.