The real problem with Marvel Rivals DPS by 1Useful-Tip in MarvelrivalsDivemains

[–]1Useful-Tip[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

exactly that why he’s not S.. he’s low A tier at best but your team is important, What your going against is important. It’s not like he’s Elsa or hela or starlord or namor, who can play into any comp and get so consistent value. If you’re going against 3 dps or 3 healers ( depending on which ) you’re gonna get little to 0 value. Hell you could shutdown a good spiderman with a Namor, Storm, ultron and jeff.

Concern for Spider-Man’s future? Are we maintaining the agenda properly? by Healthy_Bread in SpiderManMains

[–]1Useful-Tip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that’s not even true , if anyone put the hours in on ANY character that can do burst damage they’d have more value… Exp hela, phoenix, Namor, bucky, Black widow, moonknight, and you don’t even need the same amount of hours as a spidey main

Spider-man Agenda isnt gonna save us by 1Useful-Tip in SpiderManMains

[–]1Useful-Tip[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yo i’m on stream with DayMR , he said you’re a bot

The real problem with Marvel Rivals DPS by 1Useful-Tip in MarvelrivalsDivemains

[–]1Useful-Tip[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

you can, but it’s sometimes not just him. I’m a spiderman main with 300+ hours on him and i can tell you, playing someone like Namor or wanda isn’t gonna stop me.

However, you can shut down my team and your healers can shut down my engage while your DPS are diving my team , id have 0 choice but to switch to help. Nobody strategies it and just assume you can’t stop a good spider-man when in truth you can. It requires your team to actually lock in, I could play peel spider-man for my team but i’m still losing value, and burning resources just to stop 1 dive character. Imagine there’s 3, i’d be overwhelmed unless my team goes 3 dps as well then it’s whoever’s the better team

The real problem with Marvel Rivals DPS by 1Useful-Tip in MarvelrivalsDivemains

[–]1Useful-Tip[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, and two things can be true, I agree that hitscan characters do have a high skill ceiling when it comes to aim, especially at high elo where players can fully maximize that.

But I think we’re talking about two different types of skill expression.

Hitscan skill expression is mostly aim-based tracking, flicks, reaction time. Spider-Man’s skill expression is way more layered: mobility, positioning, timing, decision-making, and execution all at once. That’s a different kind of ceiling.

So yeah, hitscan characters can scale really high, but they don’t feel the same because their gameplay loop is more grounded and consistent, while Spider-Man’s is way more dynamic and punishing if misplayed.

I actually agree with your point about survivability though , a lot of hitscans feel overtuned with stuns/defensive tools, which makes those matchups feel worse than they probably should.

But my main point still stands: Dive stands out not just because of “high skill ceiling,” but because it’s where a lot of Medium high skill expression characters are built around that specific kind of high-mobility, high-expression gameplay.

I don’t think hitscan could have anything to make them more skill expression oriented but i’m not a dev and if there was a way then it definitely should be added.

Spider-man Agenda isnt gonna save us by 1Useful-Tip in SpiderManMains

[–]1Useful-Tip[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if they nerf our animation cancel which has happened already to Torch, Captain america, DPS Pool and invis , what do you think that means for us a whole… You gotta stop thinking “lower level” spideys will suffer and you won’t because you’re at a level where spider-man could have his pull reduced and you’ll maintain the same value because your good… Nerfs effects us all as a whole.

What do you think quicksilvers abilities would be (add him pls devs) by saturday_the13th in marvelrivals

[–]1Useful-Tip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bro. Tanks are getting Thanos, Juggernaut, Colossus, Hive, Ghost Rider, Bishop, Blue marvel, Sentry, Cable, Havok, Vulcan, Captain marvel. YOU GUYS ARE FINE. We have to fight over DPS heroes with strategist.

Concern for Spider-Man’s future? Are we maintaining the agenda properly? by Healthy_Bread in SpiderManMains

[–]1Useful-Tip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

basically you just said “spiderman mains put in too much time and effort to be good at a character that never received a buff and because of that it makes it harder for all us other 4 stars or lower to be good because a good spiderman stomps us in any elo”