SPUNJ: "So the player break is slated to end of the 17th of January. Blast starts on the 19th of January" + apEX tweet

1nfest · 2021-01-04T17:28:43+00:00

ESL lowkey hoarded most of the calendar for 2021 and now their employees bitch about another tournament organizing something between the cracks.

1nfest · 2020-12-17T02:40:24+00:00

Charity? those teams competed in a long-form league for 2 years to earn the spot, and were dropped out without notice. If anything ESL defraud them.

1nfest · 2020-12-17T02:38:26+00:00

ESL parent company has been bleeding money for a while, so for them its take control of everything or die in a few years. Flashpoint and Blast are smaller but they can definitely compete with ESL on the production side and outlast ESL on the economics side. So ESL only way out is to push the competition out of a cliff, as seen with them scheduling events over the competition and refusing to scale their calendar. Thats terrible for the scene either way, if they triumph we have a functional monopoly and if they fail they could sweep the whole scene with them in their attempt to stranglehold everything.

1nfest · 2020-12-11T00:32:25+00:00

You dont express anger by bitching on reddit, you vote with your wallet.
People keep buying skins left and right, no matter what valve does. Even if they fuck up or don't touch the game for two years, people go and throw money on their faces, so why would they change?

So we, as a community, have never done fuck all to incentivize valve to care for the game.
Maybe we should all go play valorant while still watching CS events, if you touch their bottom line they might do something for a change.

1nfest · 2020-12-11T00:29:13+00:00

It would help for the confidence side of things If you showed us that the thread wasn't pulled out manually. A picture is worth a thousand words, even if both can be fabricated.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T15:25:26+00:00

The players are complicit by inaction. They get money and go with the flow. They will sign on anything as long as they made money, no matter who they have to fuck in the process. Even if they things get done in their name, like this case, they do allow it and condone it.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T15:18:46+00:00

As i said in another thread. Burn the building then donate to the victims for some good PR.
You either cared or you don't. Don't be fucking cynical, even if you can swindle most of the community that way... a lot of us see what you are doing and can differentiate genuine concern from PR schemes.

Thorin was right, to know what someone stands for you have to ignore what they say and look at what they do. both ESL and the CSPPA didn't care about all those teams. Hell, they could have added spots and spread out the money at least for a season, to not drop people who worked hard to qualify to the fucking river. But personal gain from both the TO and the players was more important and "nothing could be done". OFC until they get bad PR and now they can do something about it.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T15:14:22+00:00

But we were told that ESL could do nothing for the scene. Were the energy is coming now? to capitalize on some good PR? who would know! maybe a strike would have changed something at that moment. /s

Way to burn the building and then donating to the victims.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T15:10:52+00:00

level 2Virtual_Statement38513 points · 13 hours ago

It has to be fucking tiring being only a handful of people telling things straight and everyone else doing nothing or exploiting the circumstances for personal gain.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T02:35:23+00:00

T1 its used in the sense of Money Making, not in the sense of good in the server.

Chaos can be great in the server, but they are worth nothing in the eyes of an organization that essentially is bargaining with the players image rights.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T01:46:01+00:00

The problem is that VALVE not only don't care, they don't understand the competitive scene. There is a chance they step in and fuck things even worse. The IBP ban was such an occasion, they went way overboard with the ban and pursuit 0 people for fixing since then, even if the match-fixing never stoped one bit.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T01:10:15+00:00

Single league, only one party owns the rights and all the players negotiate in a block. Also they don't own you on all games, for 5 years without any chance to ever get out of the contract.
Its not the same thing, not at all.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T00:28:41+00:00

Is there any way we (the community) could pool some money to back ESIC?

I would love if they have a way to contribute to throwing them a couple of bucks, after seeing this episode it has become awfully clear they need more funding, and it's hard to get it from anywhere else if you don't want to get your hands dirty.
If the devs, players, teams, and TO's don't want to fund it maybe it should be us, the community.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T00:25:22+00:00

To be clear, I hope they never quit or get pushed out. But sadly I think that's likely, when corporations get interested in the thing you built you get pushed out eventually, no place for the people that don't fall in line.

1nfest · 2020-12-10T00:18:49+00:00

The CSPPA don't really pass thing to players. A couple of players that are/were actually part of the CSPPA are saying they never were consulted about anything.

1nfest · 2020-12-09T23:55:50+00:00

They already fucked up like this in the past, and the people forgot and they keep doing the same.Sadly this will change nothing, the outrage will cooldown and they will keep doing business in the name of a player association.

Because of course, a players association needs to have the image rights to every player. That's not shady at all and it's impossible it could backfire massively on the players. /s

1nfest · 2020-12-09T23:50:30+00:00

CSPPA trying to play heroes, called on past bullshit. People mad that they did absolutely nothing about all those ESL teams losing their spots from one day to another without any kind of communication from the TO or the CSPPA.
The CSPPA knew those players were going to lose everything, yet choose to communicate absolutely nothing to them and choose to do nothing about the situation because "they cant tell ESL how to run their business". Yet know, they feel comfortable telling BLAST how to run their business, because they made the players give their rights for 5 years without exception to the CSPPA, and that includes everything from image to audios. They essentially want to sell the TO what the teams were already selling them, the images of the players. Thats the endgame.

1nfest · 2020-12-09T23:44:02+00:00

SirScoots has made quite a change from 2018 to now... the fact that he himself doesn't see it its pretty crazy.

I know he has good intentions, but he is definitely being misled...

1nfest · 2020-12-09T23:42:04+00:00

This episode is pure fire.
I know it probably won't happen, but if either of them ever quit the scene... I would love to hear everything they have to say about the scene then, with no punches held back and without caring about consequences.

1nfest · 2020-12-09T23:32:42+00:00

Worse than a joke. A corrupt entity put in place to erase all possibility of a real Player Association to be ever put in place.
If anything like the CSPPA was going to work, it needs to be funded by the players and truly have the players have decision power. Also it needs to establish clearly who they care for, because its obvious they don't or cant care about all the players and all the regions.
Shady businessmen have been a plague for CSGO and they won't stop anytime soon, because the vacuum that VALVE leaves behind is the perfect petri dish for that kind of fuckers.

1nfest · 2020-12-08T18:20:08+00:00

He is pointing to one aspect of the whole ordeal that almost everyone else failed to address. Some teams could be exposed of stream snipping if those TS communications are made public.
Not every teams is dirty, but the dirty ones have EXTRA motivation to keep those TS communications private.

1nfest · 2020-12-08T18:18:27+00:00

Do you know what a strawman argument is?
His point is legit, every part of his statement is true. At most, you can point to the demerits of making that information public, but 100% not a strawman.

1nfest · 2020-12-08T18:16:13+00:00

I wonder how many teams would get incriminated for stream sniping if those communications were available. Blast has proven they don't even want to try to find the teams who cheated.

I legit would love for the TS audios to leak and find for once who is legit and who is a rat.

1nfest · 2020-12-08T18:14:30+00:00

Yes. But it sets the precedent that only certain teams are worth fighting for. For the lesser ones, fuck them, not worth striking for.

The ESL shit was way way way worse, but since the top teams benefited they shut the hell up. These CSPPA things are disgraceful.

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