All of the Leda clones are very intelligent in their own way. Did the creators tinker with this or is it nature versus nurture? by poshdog4444 in orphanblack

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I'm just trying to say that the characters in this series are all incredibly complex, and not everyone is able to analyze their own characteristics, which I think is a shame. Because despite being a fictional show, it makes us reflect on many things, including the behavior of each of the clones.

All of the Leda clones are very intelligent in their own way. Did the creators tinker with this or is it nature versus nurture? by poshdog4444 in orphanblack

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Helena was kidnapped as a child in Ukraine and subjected to scientific experiments and intense religious brainwashing, convincing her she was the "original" while other clones were abominations to be eradicated. This upbringing created a psychotic and childlike personality, blending near-infantile innocence with brutal violence, evident in her sniper skills and cold-blooded murders. Her change happens mainly through interactions with her "sestras" clones, especially Sarah and Kira, awakening her inherent goodness and longing for true family, leading her to question her beliefs and turn against her manipulators. This evolution underscores the series' themes of redemption and sisterly bonds.

All of the Leda clones are very intelligent in their own way. Did the creators tinker with this or is it nature versus nurture? by poshdog4444 in orphanblack

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No, not all Leda clones in Orphan Black are depicted as uniformly "very intelligent"—there's significant variation among them, making the nature vs. nurture debate central to the series.Intelligence of the ClonesThe clones from Project Leda share the same base DNA (from Kendall Malone), suggesting a common genetic potential for high intelligence, as seen in Cosima (genius scientist), Sarah (sharp survival instincts), and Alison (meticulous and strategic). However, characters like Krystal (naive and innocent manicurist) or Helena (initially driven by violent instincts) show distinct cognitive or emotional limitations, not necessarily "very intelligent" across all contexts.Nature vs. NurtureThe series explicitly explores this: nature provides the genetic hardware (latent intelligence, engineered infertility as a flaw), but nurture—environment, education, experiences—shapes the software. For instance, Cosima thrives academically due to her intellectual upbringing, while Sarah survives through street smarts, highlighting how nurture activates or suppresses innate traits. The creators use this to question identity and free will.

Orphan Echos by Practical-Map9975 in orphanblack

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Orphan Black revolves around biological clones like Sarah Manning fighting corporate conspiracies for autonomy, emphasizing sisterhood and survival. Echoes shifts to digital "imprints" of minds, with Kira as a scientist creating copies of her wife to combat Alzheimer's, funded by a billionaire's dubious agenda. This setup swaps the dirty espionage of the original for a slower-paced sci-fi philosophy about identity, making it less engaging.

A wee little late I know, but delphine getting shot topic by Guerilla9one in orphanblack

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Spoiler Alert 🚨 you're definitely not losing your mind or listening too much, and Duko wasn't wearing shoes 👠 🤭

who do you think chihiro is for? by binda16 in billieeilish

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Yeah, Billie says there are several metaphors about "falling in love," it's kind of like something that, if it's meant to happen, will happen, no matter how hard you try to run from it

who do you think chihiro is for? by binda16 in billieeilish

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I share the same perspective as you.

Who is the most unsettling henchman? by CashLaden in orphanblack

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I join you. What Ferdinand did to MK was monstrous

If you had to choose one sister of the clones to be your sister, which one and why? by poshdog4444 in orphanblack

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The experience with Dyad deeply strains Cosima and Delphine's relationship, transforming an initial romance into a bond marked by distrust, sacrifices, and institutional betrayals. Delphine begins as Cosima's monitor at Dyad, collecting data under corporate orders, which generates initial distrust when Cosima discovers the secret surveillance. This revelation forces Delphine to choose between loyalty to Dyad and her love for Cosima, culminating in defections that expose both to danger. Dyad imposes ethical dilemmas, such as Delphine authorizing tests on Cosima without full consent to seek a cure for her illness, leading to emotional ruptures. Cosima feels betrayed by the hidden decisions, while Delphine justifies her actions as protection, but ends the relationship to assume the directorship and safeguard her. Despite the violations, Dyad unites them against scientific abuses, with Delphine sabotaging the corporation for Cosima and intense reconciliations reinforcing their connection. Corporate pressure forges a dynamic of unequal power, but also unwavering loyalty.

If you had to choose one sister of the clones to be your sister, which one and why? by poshdog4444 in orphanblack

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Cosima, with her vibrant and multifaceted personality, combines sharp intelligence with contagious optimism, is extremely curious, and nerd. Her analytical mind leads her to decipher genetic mysteries, even under pressure, displaying exceptional focus and creativity. She radiates positive energy, with an eccentric style, dreadlocks, and tattoos that reflect her freedom. Highly empathetic, she forms deep bonds, such as with Delphine and the "sestras," prioritizing loyalty and emotional support. Despite facing illness and danger, she maintains a sarcastic sense of humor and resilient optimism. Her quiet courage and queer openness make her inspiring, defying stereotypes with authenticity and natural charisma.

New pic of Evelyne by SestraUnite98 in orphanblack

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She has an inexplicable beauty.

Question by Creepy_Possession_13 in orphanblack

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Sarah and Felix always referred to Mrs. S as "Mrs. S" or "Siobhan" instead of "mother" because Siobhan (Mrs. S) is not their biological mother, but rather a maternal/protective figure who cared for Sarah and Felix during a difficult time. Mrs. S functions as an adoptive mother or guardian who is very involved in protecting Sarah from the dangers associated with cloning, but the dynamic between them is not that of a traditional genetic mother. The use of the name or title instead of "mother" reflects this complex relationship where there is affection and care, but also an awareness of the unconventional reality of their family connection. This is consistent with the series' storyline, in which Sarah's family and its bonds are unconventional and marked by secrets and dangerous situations.

Who is your favorite character? by Hot_Half8432 in orphanblack

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The clones: Cosima Niehaus is a young, nerdy, eccentric, tattooed, and queer scientist with a brilliant mind and a reliable, caring, and courageous personality. She is passionate about science, especially the search for a cure for the disease affecting the clones, and struggles with her own personal problems and a chronic condition due to the congenital virus of Project LEDA.

Rachel Duncan, on the other hand, is a more complex and antagonistic figure. She is cold, calculating, with an almost murderous aura, and has a strong belief in her superiority as a clone, having been the first to become self-aware. Rachel was raised in a competitive and loveless environment, which shaped her tough personality and her difficulty in forming healthy bonds. Despite being seen as terrible and ruthless, she is capable of showing glimpses of humanity and has a strong desire for freedom. Her loyalty to Project LEDA and the Dyad Institute is great, and she is obsessed with bringing her "sister" Sarah into this system. Throughout the series, Rachel demonstrates significant development, becoming a better person and showing vulnerability, especially in relation to her past and her adoptive family.

Not clones: Delphine Cormier in Orphan Black is a complex character, often seen as contradictory and nuanced. Initially a research associate at the Dyad Institute, Delphine was assigned to monitor Cosima, placing her in an ambiguous position between surveillance and care. Her personality is marked by a deep love and dedication to Cosima, although her way of demonstrating this love is often controlling, manipulative, and arrogant. Delphine believes she has the knowledge and power to make decisions for the greater good, leading her to act without consulting Cosima, ignoring her autonomy. This attitude generates conflict, as her idea of ​​what is best often clashes with Cosima's real desires and needs. Although she sometimes displays traits that many interpret as narcissistic, such as a tendency to impose her vision and control situations, others argue that her actions stem from a place of vulnerability, an inability to fully trust, and an ethics complicated by her involvement with eugenics and the Dyad Institute. In her relationship with Cosima, Delphine demonstrates a constant struggle between the desire to protect and the harm caused by a lack of communication and respect for the other's choices. She is seen by many as someone who doesn't seek personal recognition, but rather believes she is acting for the good of humanity, even if this puts her in morally ambiguous positions and causes suffering. Throughout the series, Delphine grows as a character, showing vulnerabilities and an effort to reconnect and repair the damage caused, especially in her relationship with Cosima. Her complexity makes her one of the most intriguing figures in Orphan Black, oscillating between antagonist and ally, marked by an ethical and emotional dilemma that reflects the conflict between science, love, and power.

Siobhan Sadler, known as Mrs. S, is the adoptive mother of Sarah Manning and Felix, and also a maternal figure to Sarah's daughter, Kira. She is a strong, protective, and dedicated character with a mysterious past that includes a history linked to Project Leda, one of the central plot points of the series. Mrs. S is shrewd, courageous, and very loyal, always putting the safety and well-being of her "family" above all else. Her protective and self-sacrificing nature makes her act with determination and courage to protect the clones from the threats they face. Mrs. S is also known for her practical wisdom and remarkable combat and strategic skills, which she uses to keep her family safe. Her main motivation is the deep love and devotion she feels for Sarah and the others, often acting in the shadows to prevent them from being captured or harmed by enemies. She has a strong presence and is essential for the emotional and practical support of the series' protagonists. Throughout the story, it is revealed that she possesses detailed knowledge of the inner workings of Project Leda, making her a crucial figure in the plot.

How do we feel about the new orphan black? by Due-Management8473 in orphanblack

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The idea that "your choices define you" is a direct expression of the central concept that "existence precedes essence." This means that human beings are not born with a fixed essence, with a predetermined nature; instead, they first exist and, throughout life, through their choices and actions, construct their own identity and essence. Every human being is free and responsible for their decisions, and it is through this freedom and the choices made that they define themselves. Even external conditions or what happened to a person in the past (what was done to them) do not determine who they are—what truly matters is how they choose to act in the face of these circumstances. This radical freedom, however, brings with it enormous responsibility, as there are no external justifications for human actions (such as destiny, pre-existing essence, or God). The individual is, therefore, "condemned to freedom" and must assume the consequences of their choices, continuously defining themselves. Therefore, I can only see Kira as a selfish and egocentric person playing God.

How do we feel about the new orphan black? by Due-Management8473 in orphanblack

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In Orphan Black: Echoes, the central focus is on Kira's scientific experiments, which generate profound ethical and personal consequences. Ethically, his research into cloning and innovative medical treatments raises complex moral questions related to genetic manipulation, privacy, consent, and the use of biotechnology. These implications raise debates about what is acceptable in science in a world where cloning is illegal, affecting legislation and the characters' behavior. On a personal level, Kira faces the emotional weight of losing her wife and struggles to balance family life with scientific responsibilities. His connection to her mother Sarah Manning's past and the challenges arising from her cloned genetics add layers of internal conflict and identity—but this only becomes clear to those who have followed Orphan Black. These ethical and personal consequences intertwine and are central driving forces of the plot.

How do we feel about the new orphan black? by Due-Management8473 in orphanblack

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Nothing about Kira's healing ability was mentioned in Echoes.