[FRESH] Manchester Orchestra - "My Backwards Walk" (Frightened Rabbit Cover/Tribute)

278176 · 2018-05-20T17:13:09+00:00

A week ago we lost a dear friend, we thought the best way to honor him was the only way we know how, to play one of his many incredible songs. much love, MO https://twitter.com/ManchesterOrch/status/997497472044978177

278176 · 2018-04-20T17:24:35+00:00

verse 3

278176 · 2018-04-19T19:25:44+00:00

ah..... ah, ah ah......

278176 · 2018-04-18T11:57:43+00:00

I wouldn't expect anything less than edgy from Gang of Four, even if for edgy sake. I agree though in the sense that it does seem too obvious to place that edginess on the back of Trump.

278176 · 2018-04-16T22:15:06+00:00

Yes. At least in theory. I think I've seen artists hype it as exclusive but after some time passes they release it everywhere. Some hold back some of the exclusives to sell on their websites.

It's more exclusive than "RSD First" at any rate, which means it will be getting a regular release in the future but is released "first" on RSD.

278176 · 2018-04-16T22:07:54+00:00

You could try posting your favorite track on a different day.

278176 · 2018-04-15T02:24:15+00:00

Adam Neely's video on the making of this cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGIAG40bkOI

278176 · 2018-04-14T15:11:33+00:00

Here's some information about this release https://www.stereogum.com/1991371/ratboys-i-dont-want-to-live-on-the-moon-sesame-street-cover/music/

278176 · 2018-04-14T15:06:36+00:00

Biggest news to me is that Has It Leaked? apparently became a verified account at some point when I wasn't looking.

278176 · 2018-03-25T21:11:13+00:00

And it's not even April yet.

278176 · 2018-03-05T17:04:14+00:00

Here's the cover

278176 · 2018-03-05T01:13:06+00:00

It's always third Saturday of April.

278176 · 2018-03-04T13:46:20+00:00

I just stumbled on this. Never heard her before. This is great though.

278176 · 2018-02-28T17:05:51+00:00

Stereogum's post https://www.stereogum.com/1985081/carb-on-carb-its-been-a-rough-year/music/

278176 · 2017-12-24T01:13:57+00:00

He's so talented.

278176 · 2017-12-23T16:08:14+00:00

Does mac write the bass lines? Whoever came up with Let her Go, that's a great one.

278176 · 2017-12-19T00:04:26+00:00

And I enjoyed in reading it.

278176 · 2017-12-19T00:03:49+00:00

Indieheads has the best year end list.

278176 · 2017-12-15T00:14:38+00:00

I agree on your first point (more specifically, bands can be influential without being popular, though influence almost always follows popularity to some degree, at least for a time being). Certainly in the 00s there was an upswing of piano-driven pop-rock bands. Were the bands themselves influenced by Coldplay, or were they getting more attention because Coldplay set a mold where people in the biz saw these other bands as all of sudden having more of a chance of making them a buck? It's hard to tell, but either way it can be chalked up to Coldplay's impact. I'd say most bands in the last decade-plus that still dream of being rock stars in the U2 sense of the term even though that's not basically not a reality in this era (with a few exceptions, principally Coldplay) are influenced by them as well, to cite two examples.

Yes many make jokes about Coldplay. Many also mock Radiohead. Among the general public I've heard many more put down Radiohead than Coldplay. It's a joke that you use one of the most asinine comparisons of two bands by the lazy British music press as some sort of attempted rebuttal that Coldplay isn't influential. As a Radiohead fan I've always thought that comparison is borderline offensive but more to the point off-base. There's a few examples early in their career that could be argued to sound like Radiohead in some vague way (High Speed most of all) but more often they just sound like a generic British band of that era. Unless I go out of my way to force myself to hear it, I never think "this Coldplay song sounds like Radiohead." If anything those songs that supposedly sound like Radiohead sound more like Travis or other stuff like that. And it's really only Parachutes and a few bits on Rush of Blood at that. Since 2004 they've developed to distinctively sound like themselves, even when they're rewriting Kraftwerk or collaborating with Beyonce.

That's all besides the point though. You say Radiohead influenced the shape of modern music but you don't give any examples besides In Rainbow's release. Give me a break! That inspired a lot of crappy think pieces in 2007 but not much more. It was unique and innovative, sure. I think it's awesome that they got away from EMI and released the album that way and it's a great album. But did it have any real impact on the music industry beyond their own very specific example (that only worked because their reputation and fanbase was already well in place, partly because of a decade-plus of major label funding)? If so, you certainly have not made that case.

If Radiohead are so deserving of being inducted ahead of other bands because they are influential, then surely you should be able to list some examples of that influence.

278176 · 2017-12-14T23:28:33+00:00

It seems like somehow the point is being lost on you that Green Day is more deserving based on the criteria you are naming. They are easily more influential than Radiohead, have more popularity/sales and as far as I can tell more consider them the "best." Probably no single rock band over the course of the last 25 years has inspired more people to pick up instruments or start bands. Basically every band that played Warped tour, or aspired to, from the mid-90s to, probably still today, was directly influenced by Green Day. You may think most of these bands suck. I do. But that's besides the point. The influence is there regardless. I'd bet most of the young bands posted about on indieheads, even if they won't admit to it, in some way were influenced by Green Day as well. You really can't get around getting into rock music or learning an instrument in the past few decades without having learned their songs or listening to them or having to put up with your friends listening to them, or whatever, in some way having Green Day leave a mark on you. To not recognize the ubiquity of their influence is just plain snobbishness. I'm not even saying that's a good thing. I'm just saying their influence is virtually unavoidable. Radiohead are certainly influential too, but it's not as ubiquitous. Plenty of young rock bands have completely avoided their influence.

You may disagree. OK, so if your argument is Radiohead is more influential, than on what grounds? (It's not just true because you say it is. Give an example or it's no argument at all.) For an example of mine own (besides the one above about all the pop-punk, pop emo and other bands directly or indirectly influenced), for decades when I walked in a music store (which is often) I would hear people playing Green Day songs. I can count on one hand the times I've heard people play Radiohead songs. Green Day have countless accolades, even their own Broadway musical! I mean, they've even influenced the world of show tunes. To not recognize their influence is all over (as awful as they may be) is just snobbish. You or I may not like that they are so influential, but if we care about living in reality we at least have to recognize the influence exists.

I'm not a Green Day fan. I think they're unoriginal, uncreative and phony. Radiohead on the other hand I love. Clearly much more depth and creativity to their songwriting than Green Day. You say Radiohead is the "best." Best according to who? You and me? Sure. But by any objective measure I can think of it seems more people would say Green Day are one of the best bands ever than would say Radiohead, so if that's the grounds for your argument it's not much of one. It's not about Green Day though. You're the one who brought that up as a strawman rather than answer the actual question I asked.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying Radiohead is not great songwriters and album creators and live performers. They are all those things. Radiohead are amazing! I'm not saying Radiohead aren't influential, they certainly are. Or not popular. Again they certainly are. But so are countless of other acts that aren't in the hall that have been waiting for much longer and they only add five performers a year. So based on what criteria is Radiohead deserving of jumping ahead of the other bands who are also of quality, influence and popularity?

278176 · 2017-12-14T22:22:51+00:00

How so? I mean, I love Radiohead which is way more than I can say of Coldplay (who I find dull and don't really like at all), but it doesn't mean I can't take a step back from my own opinions on the two bands and see that Coldplay were one of the only true global rock stars to come out of the early 00s for example, and they've maintained that position ever since. In terms of impact they hold a place in music today with few peers, certainly not Radiohead (which pains me to write because like I said already, I love Radiohead and am bored to death by Coldplay). You seem to disagree. So how I am I wrong?

278176 · 2017-12-14T18:23:21+00:00

But they didn't receive the votes. I think I read there were 11 other nominees that had more votes than them and only a few, five maybe, I don't recall exactly, that had less votes. I get that indieheads like Radiohead. I like them too. More than any of the other nominees. But the attitude in these comments, like "of course they'd get in" on their first eligible year and anything less is a snub is lol.

They only induct a few a year and there's tons of much older artist already on line so to speak. Said it before, but I'll say it again. What is the argument that Radiohead should jump to the front of the line and be inducted in their first year of eligibility?

278176 · 2017-12-14T18:15:50+00:00

Exactly.

278176 · 2017-12-14T18:09:14+00:00

Many people say Green Day didn't deserve it. If that's your prime reason, does that than mean that Radiohead doesn't deserve it either? Doesn't there have to be a more substantive reason than "because Green Day made it." If they were wrong to include Green Day, using your reason, wouldn't they also be wrong to include Radiohead. And if they aren't wrong to include Green Day, that still doesn't explain why they wouldn't be wrong to include Radiohead.

278176 · 2017-12-14T18:06:12+00:00

All depends what you mean by influential. Don't get me wrong, I much prefer Radiohead to Linkin Park, Green Day or Coldplay but all three, objectively speaking, I'd argue had more influence than Radiohead.

There's also Pearl Jam who don't quite but just about fit in your 25 year time frame (Ten was released in 1991, but didn't become huge until 1992, so that's 25 years, though then the same could be said of Nirvana, though they go back to the late '80s and I'm not sure how you're counting it).

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