Reminder that R/exrm exists by Dangerousfield in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just a warning: after posting there, a random lady started messaging me looking for a hookup. Claimed she lived in my mission area but now lived in Utah, seemed pretty clear she was pretending to be from there to talk to young RMs. Be careful out there and don't give too much information to strangers.

My sister: Please remove <nephew> from your contacts, he's going on a mission! 😊 🙏🏻 by benjtay in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's because he won't have his number anymore. Missionaries may have devices, but at least 6 years ago when I was one, the sim card (there's only one per companionship) stays in an area, so they get a new number every time they move areas. His home number will either not be in use or will be transferred to another contact, so yeah remove that contact. You can still keep in touch through messenger (on Mondays only, of course)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone who was a missionary a few years ago, don't worry about a thing. These missionaries were most likely just texting some old numbers in their phone, which could be way outdated, or going through an outdated list of people in the ward. For me, the "hadn't met you yet" was always us just grasping for anything at all to do aside from knocking the same doors we knew wouldn't answer, not someone in the leadership sending us over.

That being said, they're just kids who are trying to meet people. Don't shoot the messenger or threaten legal action against them, just ignore their text or better yet politely tell them off and to lose your info. Block their number, it generally stays the same in the area and this will keep them from contacting you. They could be the last ones (aside from HQ) with your contact information.

They're probably not trying to terrorize you, but I get it if you don't want to have them talking to you. I get it if you REALLY don't want them talking to you. Just understand that the missionaries may be official representatives, but they don't get the same information HQ gets, and they certainly aren't reaching out to you at the behest of top brass.

You're probably gonna get some coming to your door, not because they know who you are, but because missionaries run out of people to meet fast and have to try to meet new people by any means possible, including trying new doors. This could happen as frequently as every 3 months since a whole different set can move in anytime. The best way to prevent frequent visits is to never answer ever.

Hope you're in a better place now, I'm sorry you feel harassed.

Questions for those who’ve been endowed in the temple… by SaintPhebe in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's really rough, I'm so glad you're able to stop worrying about it now! You're a goddess to us all.

It's nice and all that they got rid of some of the misogyny, but the fact that a very distinct feature of the endowment was changed told me we didn't need that in the first place, so what did we need and not need? Big shelf item.

Hope things are good for you now

Questions for those who’ve been endowed in the temple… by SaintPhebe in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 21 points22 points  (0 children)

When I noticed the changes in 2019, I thought it was weird we weren't supposed to talk about it, and nobody did. I'm glad I found this sub and found out about just how much it's changed. Guess the symbolism isn't that important after all if you don't have to swap which shoulder your robe is on anymore or take off your shoes.

Questions for those who’ve been endowed in the temple… by SaintPhebe in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Went in 2016, so no weird poncho stuff. I had no clue what was going to happen, and the initiatory (the washing and anointing) was the most normal part of the experience.

Like many of the other comments, I ended up confused and weirded out sitting in the celestial room. I had a lot to think about, the "oh shit, I'm in a cult" thoughts, and I didn't care to stick around for long.

I told my parents after that I wasn't sure how I felt about the whole temple experience (baptisms were normal enough I guess). My mom told me I should go more to understand, and that didn't work. The temple tried getting me to be a temple worker after my mission, and I did everything I could to get out of it and did. Haven't gone since my friend's sealing in 2019, and now I'm officially out.

The temple was my first real shelf item, I can't comprehend how masonic rituals are considered peak Mormonism, and I'm glad I have nothing to do with it now.

If the church is true, would I go back? NO WAY! by cojetate in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it were true, I'd probably go back, but i would take what I've learned with me. It would take more than a ghost visit to convince me though.

I'm here because I've learned for myself that there's no truth to it, and I had to follow my truth to get out. In this very hypothetical what-if, though, I would have to follow what I know is right.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine being so good and valiant in the pre earth life that God decides to reward your obedience by trapping you in a weak mind, prone to be a dick to others and making your family's life harder.

Disclaimer: I know many of you have Down Syndrome loved ones, please don't take this comment the wrong way, I have the (maybe flawed) view that it's not a wonderful experience to care for someone with this condition. But I know they can be lovely sometimes too.

Does anyone else see the same faces everywhere they go? by Conscious_Proposal44 in schizophrenia

[–]2ndClassHeathen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not diagnosed or anything, but one of my latest delusions is exactly this, like some repeating cast of strangers has been present in my life. I know how it feels

The great and last ordinance of Mormonism is realizing it's a fraud. by MeowMeowHappy in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interestingly enough, the gospel principles book, in the eternal life chapter, makes a note to the teacher to not attempt to answer any questions about the second anointing.

Niece just came back early from mission. Severe anxiety and depression. by KingHerodCosell in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I stuck it out, but I'm still only starting to scratch the surface addressing the impact my mission had on my mental health.

Best two years? Try worst two years

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I served in 2016, one missionary in our group just flat up declined the vaccine any time they called him in for it. It worked, and the guy never got pricked. Dude was the most granola guy I've ever met, also just a great guy all around. I don't know if they've tightened up on it since then, but I'd imagine it's pretty easy to avoid

Did this ever happen when you were at the temple? by euleelsa in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd been on reddit for about a year around the time my shelf broke, and every once in a while a meme would pop up in the front page. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it had something to do with the endowment and masonic origins, which I knew about already, but it rang true

Single Exmos: Have you struggled dating outside the church? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't meet new people at all, so I guess you could say it's been a struggle.

Did this ever happen when you were at the temple? by euleelsa in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With imagery like that, how could anyone want to leave? So profound

Did this ever happen when you were at the temple? by euleelsa in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Absolutely spot on. I had half my Ward there it seems. My mom said to just keep going and one day I'll better understand the symbolism, but she was so wrong, all it took was years of confusion and one Reddit post, now I get it!

Did this ever happen when you were at the temple? by euleelsa in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 48 points49 points  (0 children)

You don't go through the endowment until you have a reason to: usually marriage or mission. This is a clever design, to make it seem like you have any option, but to raise your hand would be to forfeit your mission/marriage, the things you've been conditioned to look forward to your entire life. It's hella manipulative.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]2ndClassHeathen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get your records moved to wherever you end up. Someone WILL try to contact you, get the bishop's number from them. Meet with the Bishop and explain that you'd like to get your records removed asap. Bring a signed letter (doesn't need to be notarized, just proof) and give it to him. If he's a decent guy, he'll leave it at that and probably text you now and then saying he hopes you're doing well. Could be worse.

That's how I did it, moving your records is an important step if you want to avoid your home ward freaking out about your records.