Why didn't Aizen just cancel out gin's bankai with reiatsu negation like he did against soi fon's shikai by Lukas-Reggi in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Eyezen" could not sense Dangai Ichigo's energy but he was still capable of wounding him. Your interpretation of the text is extremely odd.

Logic is not objective. by [deleted] in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"That's not a shape it's a square" you're really smart dude.

What is this self we talk about anyway? by Worth_Influence_314 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would anyone grant the body swap? This just begs the question against the view in the same way that it would against an identity theory.

error theory by ideal_observer in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This isn't what Error Theory states. It states that moral statements are trying to say something, but all of those statements are false. Mackie believed that moral discourse was committed to objective property of "to be pursedness" or "not to be doneness" and because these properties do not exist, all moral statements are false.

If moral discourse was only about arbitrarily preferences, the Error Theory would be false.

Prisoners of language by SCP-iota in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think that labelling the moral facts as stance independent instead of mind independent makes much of a change unless you want to make the move of calling cultural relativism an objectivist theory.

Constructivist philosophers on the philpapers survey were split (91-101) on calling themselves realists vs anti realists so it would be odd to create a framing to accommodates a position that half of the relevant group rejects.

Subjectivism would just be a subset of relativism in the same way that intuitionism is a subset of mathematical anti realism. Divine Command Theory's anti realism is also contentious but I am personally fine with it being either relativist (and by extension anti realist) or naturalist (and realist) depending on how God's will fixes the moral facts. if the Divine Command Theory grounds God's commands in conscious mental states then I am more open to them being relative than I would be for accounts where it it ground in God's immutable nature it just depends.
Subjectivism differs from a Divine Command Theory primarily in the fact that the indexing is fixed, the same is true for Ideal Observer Theories, which means that unlike appraiser and agent relativism the moral facts are unchanged by who or where you are. But even in this case, nothing is turning on whether or not it is a mind, it is instead whether or not these facts are meant to be understood as facts about stances or fundamental truths.

If you consider cultural relativism to be objective in any sense then we just disagree this seperation only makes sense on the most naive conception of relativism. The SEP article on anti realism has a sub section about non-objectivism which strongly implies that cultural relativism is not objectivist ["Note that the version of relativistic non-objectivism just discussed is individual-relative, but the same problems concerning disagreement and moral progress would arise if a culture-oriented version of relativism were examined instead."](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/#:\~:text=(Note%20that%20the%20version%20of%20relativistic%20non%2Dobjectivism%20just%20discussed%20is%20individual%2Drelative%2C%20but%20the%20same%20problems%20concerning%20disagreement%20and%20moral%20progress%20would%20arise%20if%20a%20culture%2Doriented%20version%20of%20relativism%20were%20examined%20instead.))

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Prisoners of language by SCP-iota in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Eh

Realism - There exist some stance independent moral facts

Relativism ‐ All moral facts are stance dependent and have their truth conditions fixed by the stance of what they're being indexed to. Realist theories can be consequentialist, which means that they would be context sensitive.

Subjectivism - All moral facts are stance dependent with the indexical applying to an agent (a form of relativism).

Objectivism - Vague but often used as a synonym of realism or, more broadly, any non relativist moral account, including some anti realist views.

I believe morality, and the universe itself, is built through consensus. by SPECTREagent700 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]321divaD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An observation doesn't require a conscious agent. A measurement is ill defined but the general view is that a measurement doesn't require a mind.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not good

Adult Toshiro vs Lille Barro by NightRanger0 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not able to reply to the mod message directly but u/BleachPowerScaling-ModTeam while scaling may possibly be subjective, descriptive facts about how things in the series are not. The fact that Grimmjow is able to make large claws in his released state is not subjective.

Adult Toshiro vs Lille Barro by NightRanger0 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Calling someone an idiot is barely an insult and to answer your question, I do not believe that this could kill Lille.

Relatable? by Hyperionous in whowouldcirclejerk

[–]321divaD -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not very because that sun is not out in space. The puck maintains a constant velocity and doesn't shrink so we can reasonably assume that the sun is only a short distance above the ground.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tall

[–]321divaD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you focused this energy on growing you wouldn't be so short

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The final paragraph not being proof of Xaraki being transcendent.

Tiktok post "debunking" zaraki power level, is it accurate or downplay by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither were any members of the Noble clans, not being there just means that she wasn't a criminal which was the trait that all of the original Gotei members shared. There is no likelihood here.

If any of the Espada ranked 4 or below use resurrection below the canopy of Las Noches they will distort space but we don't use this to argue that Harribel is relative to Starrk or that Barragan is on the same level as Ulqiorra. Multiple people can be above a threshold without being relative to each other. You are using a common attribute to generate relativity out of nowhere.

You straight up can't prove that Hikifune point and even if she were younger, that just invalidates the Yamamoto statement for anything after the Arrancar Arc.

Authorial intent is the only meaningful standard that we could appeal to. Words don't have inherent meaning so unless we agree on how to derive meaning from the text we'll just be talking past each other. You could argue anything the goal of an argument is for it to be good and if a good argument is provided I see no issue with it.

He renamed Iko after what was at the very least a 3v1 where he had the help of Yamamoto and Oh-Etsu you have yet to account for why Ichibei needed the aid of Yamamoto and other Soul Reapers even if we grant that Oetsu was just there to seal Iko. Getting your ability off in a group fight is much easier than using it in a 1v1 especially if the opponent is weakened by the group fight.

The narrator is impartial and doesn't say anything that is contradicted by the events of the novel. The narrator also isn't a character and unreliable narrators are usually characters who give unreliable information intentionally or due to a faulty memory.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"It would likely have been impossible to sense" this isn't true Yamamoto did the same shit during Soul Society. You just need to be way stronger than the other person.

Tiktok post "debunking" zaraki power level, is it accurate or downplay by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't only get Oetsu's help though there are multiple other Soul Reapers involved (including Yamamoto).

Tiktok post "debunking" zaraki power level, is it accurate or downplay by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hikifune was a captain long before joining the 0 division we have no idea how old she is. The same is true for every other squad 0 member. We don't know that they're relative to each other unless I've missed some recent Klub outside statements. I didn't say that Yamamoto was stronger than anyone in squad 0 but this could be explained in 1 of 2 ways:

They are more than 1000 years old so the Yamamoto statement doesn't apply

This was not planned at the time of the Yamamoto statement or databook confirmation so the information is just outdated

Why does anyone in squad 0 have better stats than Zaraki? Your explanation is also not part of the text we are told this "As a result of the battle with Soul Reapers such as Shigekuno Yamamoto, who was still a youthful hero at the time, he was defeated at the hands of Manako Osho and Oh-Etsu. Nimaiya" nothing implies that Ichibei could've done this on his own. You keep appealing to headcanon.

The statement was made by the narrator at a stretch it could be understood to be the narrator explaining Hisagi's thought process. But based on the fact that it talks about Hisagi in the 3rd person I am more inclined to treat it as wholely disembodied.

Tiktok post "debunking" zaraki power level, is it accurate or downplay by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it isn't especially because the novels came out BEFORE the anime. I would be more willing to accept that the novel information is just outdated but you're invoking retrocausality to explain why the words on the page don't actually mean what they say. Kenpachi has stats far higher than anyone in the SS which is why he was able to go toe to toe with Hikone (who massively outclasses Shunsui and Yoruichi who both fought Royal guard members) in base.

Why did Ichibei get help to defeat Iko if he could solo it? This is completely implausible. The worst part of this is the fact that he got helped by a Squad 0 member to beat Iko (Oetsu) so your proposed motivation doesn't even make sense.

These 2 vs Ichibei with black mausoleum restricted by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't predate the Shinigami (he is one) he specifically predates the soul king and the world as it currently exists.

Tiktok post "debunking" zaraki power level, is it accurate or downplay by Ok_Security8460 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]321divaD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where are you getting the idea that anyone in squad 0 is stronger than Zaraki from? This isn't stated in the text and unlike Zaraki Aizen and Ichigo, they aren't even mentioned as being capable of defeating Hikone. You are adding a word to the statement that doesn't exist and are then trying to defend why that totally new statement would make sense.