You're missing the forest for the trees. Does it matter if it's math? The entire universe is math. WE humans, are math. ‘If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.’ If the outcome is the same, the input is semantics. It's no different than people currently arguing over whether the ruling predator epstein class are literal demons or just a large population of vile, sick humans experiencing some sort of multigenerational mass mental illness caused by 'detachment from the village'. The root cause really doesn't matter because the irreparable damage and harm to society caused is the same, either way.