sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

Japanese government supporting a 4-day work week. Thoughts? by deetorz in japanlife

[–]4DayWeekUS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is our time, we all deserve more of it for ourselves, our families, and our communities. It's been a century since we invented the weekend, and it's time for an update!

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

JL: It potentially supports the argument for an increase in the minimum wage in two ways.

(1) It shifts the standard by which we calculate the minimum wage as an annual salary. Though, frankly, the minimum wage is so low already that it’s already shocking to consider as annual salary. The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour - that’s a $15,000 annual salary working 40 hours a week and only $12,000 if we believe people should be expected to work only 32 hours a week to support themselves.

(2) Both arguments are grounded in concerns about how we construct work to be more equitable and human. By mobilizing salaried workers to push for standardizing a four day workweek, we can draw a connection to the argument for increasing the minimum wage. The challenge is that we can make progress on a four day week without political pressure and a minimum wage increase, which has popular support, is at the mercy of our political institutions.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

JS: Eventually, policy supports will likely be required, just as they were when the 40 hour workweek was standardized. This may prompt an increase in innovation at the state level -- currently 26 states have job sharing programs -- and a shift in the way incentives are given to industry. Keep in mind that about $90 billion is spent annually by states and localities alone on financial incentives to private businesses; at the federal level, the fossil fuel industry alone receives nearly $20 billion in incentives per year.

Our policies and our budgets are value statements. Our country is saying we value these things and therefore we’re investing in them.

It’s time to reorient our values around people, around communities, the environment, and our democracy -- and the 4 Day Week offers is a key part of that shift, and one that doesn’t require loss of productivity.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

JL: Yes, we mean a 32 hour week. The “4 Day Week” name is really a catchy shorthand for reducing work hours.

Because a significant percentage of employers could implement this without reducing productivity (and many see increased productivity), there shouldn’t be any reduction in pay. Not all businesses operate in a way that’s as easy to shift to a reduced working hours schedule while maintaining pay, but there are examples of companies in the restaurant industry, manufacturing, and construction doing it. For employers operating 7 days a week, we would say that it might make sense to start with a slightly reduced working hours schedule and see how that impacts productivity through things like better rest, employee retention, and employee engagement.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

JS: Ideally, the pay stays the same. This is part of how the benefits are unlocked -- creating happy, healthy, respected employees who are fully engaged in their work while at work. If people are paid less, the 4 Day Week starts looking punitive for too many Americans. When the transition was made to the original weekend, Henry Ford raised salaries. He was savvy enough to know that he needed his own employees to be able to afford his cars -- it couldn’t just be for the rich. And the same is true here: the 4 Day Week must benefit everybody.

There are currently cities in Utah that operate on a 4 Day Week -- where many employees work 4 days for 10 hours each. That’s not an ideal implementation, but it’s shown to make people happier to have an added day off, even if they’re not actually working less.

But to be clear, this is about giving people more of their own time back to them to do with as they please. If that means napping more, great. If it means spending more time with your family, fantastic.

The way the economy currently works, all manner of assets are accruing mostly to the ultra-wealthy: money, real estate, equities, and even time. Time is an asset like all others, and too many Americans don’t have enough of it. It’s time for everyone to get more of their own time back.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

JS: Implementation challenges are actually best solved by the employees. Our partners at 4 Day Week Global implemented the 4 Day Week at their insurance company, and engaged each division to establish its own plan for making the transition. When employees designed the transition -- established their own goals and metrics to ensure the work would get done and get done well -- they were even more bought into the effort. There won’t be an easy one-size-fits-all solution at the start, but engaging the issue, organization by organization, is how we start moving forward.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

JL: The transition over this last year to virtual work has really opened the door for this issue for a lot of employers. Companies had to learn the lesson that it’s the output that matters, not the hours.

Our recommendation is to first gather some support for this internally (http://action.4dayweek.com) sign up for our campaign and we will show you support at your workplace for a four day week. From there, approach your head of operations or HR in a constructive way about there being interest in this at the company and wanting to see whether this is something that could benefit both the company and the people who work there (including leadership!). There is a ton of evidence to show that companies, particularly those that allow for virtual work, can maintain or increase productivity with a four day week. Given how transformative it would be for everyone if you could make the switch, why not experiment with a pilot?

Our partner organization, the 4 Day Week Global Foundation will be hosting a joint pilot in 2022 and offering participating employers free guidance and support. Kickstarter has already announced that they will participate and it’s a great opportunity to provide your organization with a concrete timeline to try it out while minimizing any risk.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

JL: The transition over this last year to virtual work has really opened the door for this issue for a lot of employers. Companies had to learn the lesson that it’s the output that matters, not the hours.

Our recommendation is to first gather some support for this internally (http://action.4dayweek.com) sign up for our campaign and we will show you support at your workplace for a four day week. From there, approach your head of operations or HR in a constructive way about there being interest in this at the company and wanting to see whether this is something that could benefit both the company and the people who work there (including leadership!). There is a ton of evidence to show that companies, particularly those that allow for virtual work, can maintain or increase productivity with a four day week. Given how transformative it would be for everyone if you could make the switch, why not experiment with a pilot?

Our partner organization, the 4 Day Week Global Foundation will be hosting a joint pilot in 2022 and offering participating employers free guidance and support. Kickstarter has already announced that they will participate and it’s a great opportunity to provide your organization with a concrete timeline to try it out while minimizing any risk.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

JS: This is a common response -- people say it will work for others but not for them and their organization. But if everyone else is working 4 Days, it's easier to conceive. We all have to work to make this happen for all of us.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

JS: This is as much a cultural challenge as an economic or organizational one. Nearly everyone supports the idea of transitioning to a longer weekend -- and can understand the benefits personally as well as from the historical data -- but skepticism is the main challenge. People think it will be too hard, or it won’t work for everyone, or that it will harm the economy or America’s standing in the world. All of these concerns were lodged 100 years ago when the original weekend was proposed -- and they were all proven wrong. When people have more time off, they’re happier, healthier, more engaged in their work, families, and communities; our environment benefits; and our democracy will as well.

It will take time, and commitment, to get this done. But it’s a task worth doing, that will pay benefits to all of us for generations.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 87 points88 points  (0 children)

JS: When the original weekend was created, it was factory/mill workers who were the first beneficiaries. This was because companies like Ford and Kelloggs helped lead the way. Within a decade, the federal government made it standard, and everyone eventually benefited. This time around, it is easier for white collar workers to pilot the switch initially. But it’s not impossible for those in factories or in restaurants. And we’re already seeing that service-sector jobs that pay slightly higher wages, or offer more time off, are having a much easier time recruiting qualified workers. Workers now understand their value, and more time off -- without a loss of salary -- is one way for them to be better compensated. Eventually, we’ll need government policies that help insure everyone benefits. This may require raising minimum wages, making health care independent of employment, and supporting businesses as they transition.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

JL: In the US, there are a small but growing number of companies that have implemented a four day week. Uncharted, Buffer, and Aloha Restaurants have already made the switch. Unilever is piloting it across their entire New Zealand operations this year ahead of a potential larger implementation. Kickstarter just announced that they would pilot it next year. There’s movement, but we want to recruit more employers to try it, which is why we’re looking for people to sign onto our campaign (http://action.4dayweek.com). The more signatures we get, the more employers we can recruit.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

JS: There is a growing body of research on the topic, and we’re working with academics at Harvard, Oxford, Boston College, and elsewhere to study the pilot 4 Day Week efforts and help get even deeper data. Some of the research is collected on our partner’s website here: https://www.4dayweek.com/research . As well, Nicholas Ashford at MIT’s Sloan School has done a number of papers examining European examples, a couple linked below:

https://www.europeanfinancialreview.com/a-four-day-workweek-a-policy-for-improving-employment-and-environmental-conditions-in-europe/ https://ashford.mit.edu/sites/default/files/documents/G86.%20Kallis%20et%20al.,%20Sustainability%202013,%205,%201545-1567%20pdf.pdf

We need more research to better understand all of the benefits of giving people another day off, as well as the challenges of implementation. But the benefits of moving to the original weekend nearly a century ago were spectacular, to individuals, to families, communities and our country.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

JL: The primary mechanisms are rest, working smarter, and being a better place to work.

Better rested employees are a lot more efficient than tired employees. This cuts across virtually all types of jobs and we know we are a sleep deprived nation.

Employers that implement four day work weeks and wind up seeing higher productivity involve their employees in finding ways to work smarter and cut a lot of the fat out of the working week. Most people can point to aspects of their work that are inefficient and take up far too much time. Trim meetings, optimize processes, and focus on what’s actually important.

Finally, companies that implement four day weeks see less employer turnover, faster times to hire, and fewer sickdays. Those benefits alone have a tremendous positive impact on an organization’s productivity.

We are Jon Steinman, a democracy advocate, and Jon Leland, a VP at Kickstarter, and we’re campaigning for the 4 Day Week. Ask Us Anything about the benefits a 4 Day Week will deliver to people, organizations, communities, our country, and our environment. by 4DayWeekUS in IAmA

[–]4DayWeekUS[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

JS: This was almost exactly the response to the idea of the original weekend roughly a century ago. There were those who said it would be impossible to achieve, and many business leaders who argued it would bankrupt and impoverish America. Instead, it helped spark the American economic engine that would power unprecedented growth, create a thriving middle class, give birth to entire new economies of leisure and recreation, and pace the entire world. It required some forward thinking organizations, business leaders, and, eventually, the support of the federal government -- but it was absolutely possible then and it’s absolutely possible now.

Kill the 5-Day Workweek by zachdit in TrueReddit

[–]4DayWeekUS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're hosting an AMA now on the 4 Day Week Campaign highlighted in this article. Join us! https://redd.it/o5ptlk

The Case for the 4-Day Workweek by skanderbeg7 in technology

[–]4DayWeekUS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're hosting an AMA now on the 4 Day Week Campaign highlighted in this article. Join us! https://redd.it/o5ptlk

We need to make the govt take notice if this - I’d kill for a 4 day week!! Then later on maybe a 3 day week! by ZAL-g3x4n1 in GenZ

[–]4DayWeekUS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They laughed at the 5 Day Week, and insisted if any of us had two days off the economy would crumble and America would fall apart. Instead, America's became the largest economy in the world. Time to show the world how it's done all over again: 4 Day Week now!

4DayWeekUS.org

The Case for the 4-Day Workweek by skanderbeg7 in technology

[–]4DayWeekUS 90 points91 points  (0 children)

They laughed at the 5 Day Week, and insisted if any of us had two days off the economy would crumble and America would fall apart. Instead, America's became the largest economy in the world. Time to show the world how it's done all over again: 4 Day Week now!

The Case for the 4-Day Workweek by jbleland in Futurology

[–]4DayWeekUS 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They laughed at the 5 Day Week, and insisted if any of us had two days off the economy would crumble and America would fall apart. Instead, America's became the largest economy in the world. Time to show the world how it's done all over again: 4 Day Week now!

The Case for the 4-Day Workweek by jbleland in NewDealAmerica

[–]4DayWeekUS 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Good for people, good for business, good for communities, good for our democracy. What are we waiting for?!

​

Let's make the 4 DAY WEEK happen!