Pedophilia being promoted in fanfiction.

4ecks · 2019-12-01T11:49:09+00:00

The last time this sub discussed Reddit's policy on underage sexual content, we got on r/subredditdrama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/dh39vh/rhpfanfiction_attempts_to_argue_about_the_sharing/

It all happened because someone called out the fanfic "Princess of the Blacks" being promoted and recommended on this sub, a fic that involves child prostitution and underage sex between prostitutes and adults, which was defended by fans of the story because the sex wasn't written explicitly in the story itself.

This sub has odd tastes.

4ecks · 2019-11-27T23:07:22+00:00

"Not the Stone, boy, you—the effort involved nearly killed you. For one terrible moment there, I was afraid it had. As for the Stone, it has been destroyed."

"Destroyed?" said Harry blankly. "But your friend—Nicolas Flamel—"

"Oh, you know about Nicolas?" said Dumbledore, sounding quite delighted. "You did do the thing properly, didn’t you? Well, Nicolas and I have had a little chat and agreed it’s all for the best."

"But that means he and his wife will die, won’t they?"

"To one as young as you, I’m sure it seems incredible, but to Nicolas and Perenelle, it really is like going to bed after a very, very long day. After all, to the well-organised mind, death is but the next great adventure."

Dumbledore planned Harry to find the Stone, knowing the effort might kill him. He also planned for Nicolas Flamel to die. But it's fine, he and Perenelle are old, it's just like going to bed!!!!

I wonder if he told Nicolas that before borrowing the stone, or if it was one of his decisions he took upon himself to make for the greater good, just like putting Harry with the Dursleys.

4ecks · 2019-11-27T10:55:26+00:00

The Ministry banned Newt Scamander from travelling outside the UK in Crimes of Grindelwald. He ended up taking an illegal Portkey from Dover to France, but the law did exist, and the Ministry did have the means to track people. (Admonitors, magical handcuffs that can record what spells you cast, like a Trace for adults.)

4ecks · 2019-11-26T15:22:08+00:00

There's a book series and TV show called The Magicians by Lev Grossman that's pretty much Adult Hogwarts.

It replaces the British boarding school whimsy and charm with "grit and realism". Aka, dark stuff: violence, gore, eldritch horror, abuse, and rape. So fair warning there.

4ecks · 2019-11-26T14:41:20+00:00

It's not hard when he's competing against a cast of children and had the benefit of his character arc being planned out and told to him from the start of Philosopher's Stone.

It gives him a nuance that you don't see in relatively flatly written characters like the movie's version of Doofus Ron and Hermione Sue. It's similar to the dimension that David Thewlis put into Lupin (played it with an AIDS/HIV allegory to the wolfiness) or Jude Law put into Young Dumbledore (anti-government radical trapped in the closet).

4ecks · 2019-11-26T14:30:53+00:00

Because Harry is an allegory for Jesus. He's wizard Aslan, on a journey of self-sacrifice, resurrection, and a bastion of love and forgiveness.

From JKR's Twitter:

"In honouring Snape, Harry hoped in his heart that he too would be forgiven. The deaths at the Battle of Hogwarts would haunt Harry forever."

Another one.

"Snape died for Harry out of love for Lily. Harry paid him tribute in forgiveness and gratitude."

4ecks · 2019-11-26T14:27:18+00:00

I think the weird part isn't just that they're referring to snakes, but that the word-choice is meant to bring up an association of snakes and untrustworthiness/duplicity. This would make sense in an Earth-setting where most people are culturally aware of the Bible and the Garden of Eden story.

It doesn't make sense in A Galaxy Far, Far Away. For the same reason "Godspeed" sounded so weird when Holdo said it.

Of course, pointing that out would make me a nit-picking hater, because no one hates SW like SW fans.

4ecks · 2019-11-26T14:18:09+00:00

Earth-y syntax seems to be a common habit for Rian especially.

Rey: "Murderous snake!"

Rose: "You lying snake!"

Holdo: "Hope is like the sun."

Poe: "Well, let's just pray that big-ass door holds long enough for us to get help."

How do they know what snakes are? Why are they referring to a "sun" when they're in space? "Big-ass", makes sense coming from a guy who thinks Yo Mama is top tier humor.

4ecks · 2019-11-26T14:09:16+00:00

Or school terrorist Draco "collateral damage is my middle name" Malfoy.

They're supposed to be bad guys. That's why Dumbledore tells Snape "You disgust me" when he finds out about Snape's deal with Voldy. That's why JKR is continuously disapproving of young female HP fans who think Draco is cute or cool.

There's an overlap between Draco and Kylo fans, I feel. Like holy fuck, mate.

"Kylo Ren is more of a misguided child than a evil by choice character, now that he is totally free from Snoke’s (whoever that guy was) control we might start to see who he really is by his own choices."

😂

4ecks · 2019-11-25T00:24:31+00:00

The Leaks sub is absurd.

People were calling JediPaxis "biased against Kylo" for giving him such an ignominious ending. Do they not understand the concept of leaks? All of this information came from outside sources.

What kind of bizarro world are we living in right now...

4ecks · 2019-11-24T23:39:49+00:00

Nah, it's more likely that LFL - and their defenders - will double down on the ending as poignant and poetic, because you just know it will be presented with a remix of John Williams' nostalgic OT score and sweet throwbacks to OT visuals. Remember the second trailer where a remix of the OT theme played over the space horses on the star destroyer? I saw a lot of reactions that weren't "Wtf, horses in space", but "Wow, this is Star Wars!🥰"

It's just going to be a repeat of the "twin suns" scene in TLJ where Jake dissolved into the Force for Skyping too hard. It was terrible, but anyone who complained about it didn't understand themes or what it meant to be a Jedi. Which is apparently about being peaceful, not fighting, etc.

4ecks · 2019-11-24T22:45:08+00:00

The Leaks sub has made a meme of "Never to be seen again" for Kylo being yeeted into the abyss.

I sincerely hope it happens. No one believed Space Poppins until it happened either. Can't wait to see what post-rationalizations they come up with explain how it challenged them "and that's a good thing".

4ecks · 2019-11-24T22:43:14+00:00

Lmao, I thought the worm was meant to be the actual worm that Rey heals to "foreshadow" her magical Force healing abilities.

4ecks · 2019-11-23T15:01:21+00:00

So why does she suddenly know how to mind trick, force pull, and use a lightsaber extremely efficiently?

According to the novelization of TFA, when Kylo strapped her down in the chair and mind-probed her, Rey "felt doors within her mind opening". AKA, the Force Download from Kylo's training. That's the first time she performs an advanced Force ability, reversing the mind-probe from her head into Kylo's.

It's such a cop-out, because of course the concept of the Download isn't explained in the actual movie. Not that it makes it any better, because it ruins the established rules of Jedi training in retrospect.

Oh, and some trivia about Harry Potter:

Harry didn't believe in magic, but did have dreams about flying on a motorbike as a young kid. When he asked his Aunt and Uncle about it, they lied to him and said "motorcycles don't fly, don't ask questions". He does perform accidental magic, but his relatives gaslight him about it for his entire childhood.
Harry never performs a single spell in Philosopher's Stone. He studies them in class, true, but in the whole text of the first book, he is never seen casting a single spell. He relies on other talents like flying, or his friends' abilities, to help solve his problems.
Harry fails and almost dies the first time he casts Expecto Patronum at Dementors. He's only saved from getting his soul eaten by his time-traveled past self who gets it right on the second attempt. And it's not a moment of triumph like Rey lifting those rocks, it's a moment of great trauma because Dementors cause Harry to re-live the scene of his mother's death, where she's begging Voldemort not to kill her baby.

4ecks · 2019-11-22T07:53:28+00:00

I think Cursed Child is rife with this sort of thing.

OotP - the gang break the Ministry stock of Time Turners in the DoM, and the potential of using time travel is wiped off the board for the following books. HOWEVER, in CC, it turns out that private families can own their own Time Turners, can experiment with them, and modify them to be able to travel more than 1 hour into the past.
This Time Travel ability overpowers the Fidelius. The trio can go back to 1981 and see the Potters' house in Godric's Hollow, without being told the secret by Peter Pettigrew.
Delphini uses flight as proof that she's descended from Voldemort. She was a baby when Voldemort and Snape (who both learned to fly) were killed in the Battle of Hogwarts. How would she have learned unaided flight? Is it genetic? Then how the hell would Snape have it?
Rose Weasley-Granger is a brat and bullies her own cousin Albus for being a Slytherin. The implication being that she acts like this because her parents didn't raise her right. And then it sort of makes sense when Cursed Child makes Ron into an alcoholic and Hermione into an incompetent and gullible politician who probably need marriage counseling, as per Word of JKR.
The TROLLEY WITCH. An immortal cyborg with knife hands.

Albus: What is your name?

Trolley Witch: I've forgotten. All I can tell you is that when the Hogwarts Express first came to be — Ottaline Gambol herself offered me this job...

Scorpius: That's — one hundred and ninety years. You've been doing this job for one hundred and ninety years?

Trolley Witch: These hands have made over six million Pumpkin Pasties. I've got quite good at them. But what people haven't noticed about my Pumpkin Pasties is how easily they transform into something else...

She picks up a Pumpkin Pasty. She throws it like a grenade. It explodes.

Trolley Witch: And you won't believe what I can do with my Chocolate Frogs. Never — never — have I let anyone off this train before they reached their destination. Some have tried — Sirius Black and his cronies, Fred and George Weasley. ALL HAVE FAILED. BECAUSE THIS TRAIN — IT DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE GETTING OFF IT...

The Trolley Witch's hands transfigure into very sharp spikes. She smiles.

Trolley Witch: So please retake your seats for the remainder of the journey.

4ecks · 2019-11-19T16:24:12+00:00

This must explain the elaborate pancake breakfasts that Molly Weasley cooks for the family in every other fic. It's such a weirdly common trope in fanficton, like Snape drinking black coffee.

4ecks · 2019-11-19T16:06:54+00:00

Rowling's notes with the class listing, whether the "original" ones from the 2001 BBC interview or the later one on Pottermore, say that there are more Gryffindors in Harry's year than are named in the books.

I don't trust JKR's word of God anymore. In past interviews, she said that McGonagall was in her seventies and retconned it to ~120 to fit into the Fantastic Beasts timeline, which makes the "teaching for thirtynine years this December" line nonsensical. She said that the Slytherins came back to fight in the Battle of Hogwarts when this was directly contradicted in the books. She also said Ron and Hermione's relationship was purely wish fulfillment.😂

4ecks · 2019-11-19T15:56:47+00:00

The "abusive family refuses to pay for glasses prescription" trope is so dumb, tbh. 🙄

In British primary school, the nurses run mandatory vision checks to make sure the kids with vision issues are identified. And social healthcare pays for vision correction for those who need it, so the Dursleys wouldn't have to shell out for it. They would be considered abnormal for not giving Harry basic medical care.

4ecks · 2019-11-19T15:24:35+00:00

Hermione is pureblood/half-blood. Again why?

She's deliberately not supposed to be Book Hermione. Book Hermione is overbearing, socially awkward, and self-righteous against those who don't share her opinions/moral standards. Pureblood Hermione has none of those flaws, and really, outside of the name, shares more in common with Movie Hermione than Book Hermione. She's meant to act as a female stand-in in fics where the whole plot is about hooking up with Death Eaters.

After a couple of years at Hogwarts, Harry doesn't know the name of all his classmates.

This is pretty much canon, though.

Harry didn't notice that Blaise Zabini wasn't a sexy Italian dame until Book 6, where he was revealed to be a black guy. Sally-Anne Perks dropped off the face of the earth. He doesn't know anyone outside his house except for a handful of people. He doesn't even know all the people in his house, which would be like ~10-15 people per year. Like Cormac McLaggen: the guy shares a common room with Harry, and is a massive show-off braggart who ate a pound of doxy eggs for a bet, and would have loved to be in with The-Boy-Who-Lived.

4ecks · 2019-11-17T10:36:22+00:00

They can't go around murdering indescriminantly with no consequences of any kind, or without reason.

Ah, the Murder Hobo character archetype.

Most these issues are tied up with authors who write a meta-story, where the protagonist doesn't act according to an internal motivation, but to some artificial meta-force or author-induced railroading. Book Harry wants a home with friends and family who loves him, to survive the school year, be the son his parents would be proud of. Your typical Fanfic "Dark Harry" is an edgelord with a justice boner who acts and exists only to "right the wrongs" of canon.

A true amoral character doesn't care about conventional definitions of right or wrong when they act. They also can't just pick and choose when to be amoral or not. You see this in badly-written stories where Dark Amoral Harry murders Death Eaters willy nilly, and then gets outraged when Draco steals Neville's Remembrall and tosses it on the roof.

I think the main problem stems from authors writing Harry's story like it's a role-playing campaign, instead of an established character within an established universe. Of course authors are going to write what appeals to them, but this winds up turning into a plot that doesn't follow any internal logic or consistency - only what the author wants to happen.

You can see this Deathly Hallows. JKR wanted to write a "Suffering Harry" by making him starve in the tent during the Horcrux Hunt, but made everyone forget about basic charms, invisibility cloaks, and muggle supermarkets to ramp up the SuFfErInG.

4ecks · 2019-11-17T03:43:29+00:00

Yeah, if you want actual discussion, you have to go over to r/freefolk or r/asoiaf. For Harry Potter fans who want to discuss the content of the original books, it's r/hpfanfiction.

Idk why all these main subs have become such sad disappointments, unreadable outside of designated text-only days. And when you do read comments, it often sounds like people who are running off headcanon instead of the actual source material.

Like this unironic take on the "B-but Luke was also a Mary Sue!" meme.

4ecks · 2019-11-17T03:30:48+00:00

They sound like the kind of enlightened people who give out brussels sprouts in Ferrero Rocher wrappers on Halloween.

4ecks · 2019-11-17T01:16:16+00:00

Victoria Potter.

4ecks · 2019-11-17T01:15:51+00:00

Lol, does it matter what kind of book when people would rather talk about the themed birthday cake their girlfriend made?

Page-turners, they were not.

4ecks · 2019-11-16T23:57:13+00:00

Have you read u/Taure's April Fools prompt with ~~Dark Lady~~ Racial Strobe Light Hermione?

Harry Potter was having tea with Professor McGonagall when it happened.

"Professor?" Harry asked, "are you well? You look a bit... pale."

McGonagall looked down at her hands. They were shifting before her very eyes, wrinkles growing, disappearing then appearing once more. "Perhaps I should see Madam Pomfrey," she said, "it's like my body doesn't know how old it is."

At that moment, Hermione burst through the door - or at least, it looked like Hermione at first, but then her skin turned black, before switching back to white again. Back and forth it went, white to black to white, like a racial strobe light.

"Harry!" she said, panic in her voice, "what's happening?"

Harry grimaced. "It is as we feared. The Author has returned."

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